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Old Oct 8, 2011 | 05:40 PM
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Getting negative feedback removed after time?

The only reason I ask is because I received negative feedback from the guy two years ago, since I had left him some for sending me a bad motor. Paypal awarded me, the vendor (at the time a vendor) doing the work verified it was bad. The guy who sent me the bad motor has not been seen on the forum in over two years AND he scammed another guy on the forum before he disappeared. I was even able to show the mods that he had used another duplicate forum name to award himself feedback!!

Is there anyway to go back and review, or maybe ask for consideration in the matter? I have a ton of feedback, spent tons of money so I would have no reason to try and screw him out of his money. Since that time I have had about 30+ positive feedback and have not disappeared form the forum, still have an Evo.

The mod at the time was just doing his job and said he was going to leave it despite him knowing I was right, he had even said that. Just curious? I just feel in certain circumstances it can be easy to see that one person may not have deserved the feedback they got. I go out of my way to ensure buyers are happy to get the feedback score I have you can ask anyone who has left me feedback how they were treated.

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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 04:35 PM
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Still interested in hearing back..... I am not the only one who got scammed so his negative feedback for me seems warranted for removal.
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 04:42 PM
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Last time I tried to get it reversed, Bob (Speedlimit) said that both parties had to contact him to get the iTrader feedback removed.
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 04:55 PM
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That's lame I mean he disappeared hasn't logged in for over a year
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 05:17 PM
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Thats why I choose to not leave feedback rather than leaving negative feedback. Its too easy for the other person to post it on my rating just out of spite. Sucks because there are quite a few people I want to leave negative feedback for but I don't want people thinking I'm a bad buyer/seller if I have negative feedback consequently.
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Anarchy99
That's lame I mean he disappeared hasn't logged in for over a year
Dude, you have 91 positive feedback ratings so far. One negative isn't going to reflect that much on you man. Besides, you can't please everyone.

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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 12:11 PM
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I agree with the OP. Years ago, I had one guy send me damaged product, he wouldn't work with me to resolve the issue and consistently lied; because I left him negative feedback he did the same, even though he was in the wrong.

There is nothing in place to prevent anyone from leaving unjustified negative feedback.

I would submit that if you had sufficient proof that you were in the right, that you should be able to remove the negative feedback....
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 01:29 PM
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I agree with the OP. Years ago, I had one guy send me damaged product, he wouldn't work with me to resolve the issue and consistently lied; because I left him negative feedback he did the same, even though he was in the wrong.

There is nothing in place to prevent anyone from leaving unjustified negative feedback.

I would submit that if you had sufficient proof that you were in the right, that you should be able to remove the negative feedback....

Hi,

We will rarely edit feedback without both the buyer and seller agreeing. We understand there are exceptions and will review feedback on a case by case basis. The older the feedback the less chance we will make a unilateral change as the integrity of our feedback system is the priority. Thanks.

Bob..
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 01:59 PM
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So would you consider reviewing this? I know it is old but that is just my case.... I have waited to see what would happen and it turned out as I expected, he dissapeared. Others have contacted me saying they were scammed over the last two years. I truly feel this is a worthy case to consider, I mean just look at the facts is all. I have ONE negative and it's him out of over 90? Seems odd to me.
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 02:08 PM
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Please send me a PM. Thanks.

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Old Oct 22, 2011 | 07:21 AM
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I notice the word "integrity" mentioned when referring to the iTrader and I have to agree to that somewhat. At the same time I feel that the system is broken in the same way that eBay and other's are when it comes down to both parties having to contact the forum about it. Heck, my brother had like 700+ 100% positive on eBay and one guy sent him something broken and wouldn't accept a return and retaliated to his negative feedback with negative feedback.

If a scammer is scamming why would they take the time to battle it out on the forum to get their itrader reversed? If they actually scammed someone then the chances of getting it overturned are slim to none, and it's just as easy to just create a new user name and put in a few posts then you're ready to start all over again.

So unless it was legitimately a case of miscommunication, product was damaged in shipping, or whatever, then having both parties contact would probably be harder to do. This is fine if the scammer has negative feedback, but when they act like d-bags and retaliate and leave negative feedback for someone that was completely up-front and honest the entire time then there is pretty much nothing that innocent person can do.

In this case, yeah, it was a while ago, but what if that happens to someone now? People are going to be weary of him for sometime in the future and he could possibly miss selling a couple things. Also, maybe it just seems like common sense to me, but how often can the buyer be a scammer? I mean, if you send someone a product without knowing 100% that you have the money for said product it seems to me that you're not very good at buying and selling. If I send someone the money, in a timely manner, with all the directions they need to ship it, then I've done my job and I deserve positive feedback. Doesn't matter what happens after that as I've done exactly what I was supposed to do. If I'm a scammer buyer (for instance someone that said they never got the product when i actually did), that's something I would have to dispute with the shipping company anyway (as long as I was smart enough to put insurance on the package) not automatically give someone bad feedback on here.

This is just my $0.02 on this. The system here is good, but with this many people on the forum and the crazy stuff some people do, it's hard for any system to work 100%. My biggest problem is getting the feedback I deserve. I've bought 3 Evos from people on here and never received feedback on any of them. The last one was a 9 MR, the guy said he needed a few days before he could sell the car to me while he waited on getting a replacement. He text me about a week later on a Wednesday at 12pm. I was there (4hour trip one way) by 7pm with the cash in hand. I'd like to think I was a good buyer .
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Old Oct 22, 2011 | 08:47 AM
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Hi and thank you for your comments. I'm not sure I understand your point as any volunteer rating system will be arbitrary and not 100% effective. It should be considered a good first step when making a sell or purchase decision. When referring to the integrity of the system I specifically mean that the Evom staff will not arbitrarily change feedback without both parties concurrence or a compelling reason from one of the participants in a transaction. Thanks.

Bob..
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Old Oct 22, 2011 | 12:55 PM
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Yea I agree with Bob as your points make sense I also know it cannot be 100% I was merely just showing the facts and asking for consideration. AlsO please keep in mind I WAS the buyer and had a certified shop and vendor (at the time) test the motor up and down and show that it was bad.

I think there should be certain circumstances or points to review that would warrant a change in specific circumstances.

Either way Bob sent you a pm and appreciate you taking the time to even consider this. Thanks!

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Old Oct 22, 2011 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Speedlimit
Hi and thank you for your comments. I'm not sure I understand your point as any volunteer rating system will be arbitrary and not 100% effective. It should be considered a good first step when making a sell or purchase decision. When referring to the integrity of the system I specifically mean that the Evom staff will not arbitrarily change feedback without both parties concurrence or a compelling reason from one of the participants in a transaction. Thanks.

Bob..
Ah, I getcha. I guess I was more misunderstanding in that it seemed borderline impossible for people in OP's situation to get the feedback reversed because of having to keep the integrity of the system. I know in a lot of cases once you start make arbitrary changes, then it starts happening more often because people will want the same changes applied for lesser infractions. Thanks for the info and keep up the good work.



Originally Posted by Anarchy99
Yea I agree with Bob as your points make sense I also know it cannot be 100% I was merely just showing the facts and asking for consideration. AlsO please keep in mind I WAS the buyer and had a certified shop and vendor (at the time) test the motor up and down and show that it was bad.

I think there should be certain circumstances or points to review that would warrant a change in specific circumstances.

Either way Bob sent you a pm and appreciate you taking the time to even consider this. Thanks!
That's what I was more specifically trying to get at, I suppose. People in your situation where you are the buyer and clearly did everything that a responsible buyer should do, should definitely have more consideration. Although, like someone else said, your feedback clearly represents your good character and that you are a good buyer/seller. I was just annoyed reading your thread because this has happened to me as well and it was nuts to try to get the feedback overturned (not on this forum).

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