http://www.petitiononline.com/txplate/petition.html

Mods can you please make this a sticky.

thanks
vincent

 

I am signed up. My question to Villan:

Is there a way to get around a ticket for this? I have heard, if there is no way to attach, ie bracket, or having to drill holes in the bumper, that you can have this dismissed. Any truth to this?

 

front window, a few weeks ago a bunch of people got them but not me because you could see it.... I think its crap but whatever...

 

i have mine mounted in front window but i have a friend who got pulled over for that so im not quite sure. but i totally signed up for the petition. how many votes does it take to make a change?????

 

There is no way to get around this ticket. Well, most of the time. Having no brackets or holes does not exempt anyone. I know that I've read a few people that got away with such excuse(i.e. ImportPepe). But for the most part, if the judge/prosecutor knows what they are doing, there is no getting around it but to fix it.

 

This sounds almost exactly like the one from the California petition.

Anyone else notice this?

 

bump...don't think you have to be a texas resident to voice your opinion on texas wanting other reasons to hassle performance cars and not make more of an attempt at catching the serial kidnapper/rapist.

 

Bump for more signers. I just saw this and signed. I heard the current plate repeal section of the bill passed the TX house but failed the Senate partially due to the DPS lobby. Even if the petition is not effective, it's still worth a shot for all of us that hate the front plate.

The petition:
http://www.petitiononline.com/txplate/

Interesting TX Comptroller article...
http://www.window.state.tx.us/tpr/atg/atgps/ps18.html

 

Bump, I just signed.

 

The only times I have been pulled over by the local authorities centered around a lack of a front plate.On one trip from Dallas to Arkansas,I was pulled over by DPS twice on the same day.The explanation was for lack of a front plate.Not for speeding or any other reason.

 

wow this is an old thread. i think it gives them a reason to pull you over and look for other items to cite you on. never had one on the evo never will. it's sacrilege.

 

Yep, I've talked to cops about this one ('cause it really pisses me off). One specifically said that the reason they do it is to "initiate contact." ie. pull you over to look for something else. He said a lot of cops find warrants that way.

As far as the front window...technically it's still illegal in Texas. The law states specifically where you can have it and it mentions a certain height from the ground.

 

You were misinformed. Basically, the plate has to be displayed in the front and rear without distortion of the lettering or numbers.

Your city or county might have it's own ordinances (highly unlikely), but according to the state of Texas, one could interpret a windscreen placement acceptable as long as it was readable.

Coincidentally, I drove a late model Volvo for years across Texas, NEVER once stopped for a missing front place. In fact, I was cited for speeding a few times within that period, and even then was never questioned about the lack of a plate. I usually drive with the plate within reach, and toss it up if I’m pulled over.





§ 502.404. OPERATION OF VEHICLE WITHOUT LICENSE[0] PLATE[0] OR
REGISTRATION INSIGNIA. (a) A person commits an offense if the
person operates on a public highway during a registration period a
passenger car or commercial motor vehicle that does not display[0] two
license[0] plates[0], at the front and rear of the vehicle, that have
been:
(1) assigned by the department for the period; or
(2) validated by a registration insignia issued by the
department that establishes that the vehicle is registered for the
period.
(b) A person commits an offense if the person operates on a
public highway during a registration period a passenger car or
commercial motor vehicle, other than a vehicle assigned license[0]
plates[0] for the registration period, that does not properly display[0]
the registration insignia issued by the department that establishes
that the license[0] plates[0] have been validated for the period.
(c) A person commits an offense if the person operates on a
public highway during a registration period a road tractor,
motorcycle, trailer, or semitrailer that does not display[0] a license[0]
plate[0], attached to the rear of the vehicle, that has been:
(1) assigned by the department for the period; or
(2) validated by a registration insignia issued by the
department that establishes that the vehicle is registered for the
period.
(d) Subsections (a) and (b) do not apply to a dealer
operating a vehicle as provided by law.
(e) An offense under this section is a misdemeanor
punishable by a fine not to exceed $200.

Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 165, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995.




§ 502.409. WRONG, FICTITIOUS, ALTERED, OR OBSCURED
LICENSE[0] PLATE[0]. (a) A person commits an offense if the person
attaches to or displays[0] on a motor vehicle a number plate[0] or
registration insignia that:
(1) is assigned to a different motor vehicle;
(2) is assigned to the vehicle under any other motor
vehicle law other than by the department;
(3) is assigned for a registration period other than
the registration period in effect;
(4) is fictitious;
(5) has letters, numbers, or other identification
marks that because of blurring or reflective matter are not plainly
visible at all times during daylight;
(6) has an attached illuminated device or sticker,
decal, emblem, or other insignia that is not authorized by law and
that interferes with the readability of the letters or numbers on
the plate[0] or the name of the state in which the vehicle is
registered; or
(7) has a coating, covering, or protective material
that:
(A) distorts angular visibility or
detectability; or
(B) alters or obscures the letters or numbers on
the plate[0], the color of the plate[0], or another original design
feature of the plate[0].
(b) Except as provided by Subsection (f), an offense under
Subsection (a) is a misdemeanor punishable by a fine of not more
than $200, unless it is shown at the trial of the offense that the
owner knowingly altered or made illegible the letters, numbers, and
other identification marks, in which case the offense is a Class B
misdemeanor.

 

ditto here

on the last GrouponeDFW cruise we sat talking to the Venus police while they were posting cars on all exits out of Venus, yes, we were behaving all the way past 'm
anyway this ranking officer said he never notices one missing unless its in such a conspicuous place like the windshield. turns out it has to be installed right where all the other ones are
by the way thats a fun cruise..this Saturday

 

Oh o.k., since it was the "ranking officer" we should ignore what the actual law is.

Police officers are not experts on the law. If you have a question about a law, look it up or call a lawyer. Oh wait... It's posted two posts above...