A few months ago, Turbo Trix rebuilt the engine in my Evo. I was finally able to get to the track this past weekend for a 3-day event at Summit Point. I knew the car was fast, but had no idea how fast. I was able to pass everybody and lap many. On the front straight, everything in my mirror was shrinking. At one point, a fully track-prepped WS-6 was on my *** in the last turn coming onto the front straight. I gave him a point-by. When he did not pass me, I looked in my mirror and saw that he was so far behind that he could not catch me, let alone pass me. There really was no competition in my group for the entire weekend.

A buddy of mine drove is recently TT-tuned MR down from NJ. He was chatting with a 911 Turbo driver and the guy said, "Hey, ever seen one of these?". My friend replied, "Yeah, it's a 911 Turbo". The guy then said, "It's an X50". My friend politely smiled and talked about his car and his business, etc. During the first session, the 911 driver was shocked to see his precious X50 get walked down the front straight by an MR with cam gears, turbo-back exhaust and an Xede.

Our cars are phenomenal. Thank you Turbo Trix.

-chris

 

I hope he didn't catch you in Turn 1, 2, etc... It's really annoying when people with a lot of HP won't LIFT when they give you the point-by. The fact that he was right on you in the last turn but couldn't pull you on the straight (though he shouldn't have to) suggests that he was the better driver in a lower HP, worse handling car. He wouldn't have been right on you in that turn onto the front straight unless he did a better job exiting the carousel (I've done over a dozen events at Summit). It sounds like maybe you were slowing him down and in a race situation he would have been by you in that turn rather than slowing down for you in the turn, losing his momentum and waiting for the straight and the point-by.

Also, when faced with the situation of a high HP car that won't let you by on the straight, usually the best thing to do is lift on the front straight, put some distance between you and the discourteous guy in the more powerful car and then reel him in through the corners leading up to the straight to show him that you are the better driver despite your less powerful car. So, the fact that the WS6 fell back doesn't necessarily mean that he was that much slower. My guess is that the WS6 might have been irritated that you didn't let him by and then decided to put some space between him and you to have more run room in Turns 1, 2, 3, etc.

I'm making a lot of assumptions about what happened, but the way you told the story brings back a lot of track event incidents when I've been extremely annoyed with the rich guy in the Viper, etc. that can't drive in the corner to save his life but pulls you on the straight and then brags in the pits afterward about how no one could pass him, he was the fastest car on the track, blah blah blah.

Anyhow, this post was probably too harsh, but I'm more or less venting at all of those guys who've incited the road rage side of me while on the track. Sorry if I've completely mischaracterized what happened.

 

omg finally! someone that actually took out the evo and did what it was ment to do. I was expecting another lame drag racing story. sounds like you have a very fun car there!!!

 

I am sorry that I did not explain more clearly what led to Turn 10. The snow had been melting around the track and created a puddle at the apex of 8. I hit the puddle with both left wheels and started to slide in 9, which caused me to lose a lot of momentum. That is why he was on me at 10. I was only at 75% throttle when I gave him the point-by ( I know how to play nicely). Later that session, in fact, in every session, I was able to lap the WS-6. The only cars in my group quicker through the carrousel were two highly-modified MINIs.

I do understand your frustration with the high-HP cars and the douche bags who typically drive them. Fortunately, most of them don't like to come out in the cold.

I will be going to VIR with Car Guys later this summer:

http://carguys.com/calendar.html

If you would like to attend, shoot me a PM. We were able to get a group rate for $175 less than the listed price for the event.

 

what the hell is an X50?

 

F50?

 

i'm assuming that its some variation of a 911 turbo...at least thats what i gathered from the first post. but i'd like to know what it actually means

 

X50 is the Porsche X50 Package... its like a performance upgrade package... i dont know what they add but it gives the car some more hp

 

Found it....... http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/ly/03x50.htm

 

From http://www.seriouswheels.com/top-200...urbo-Coupe.htm :

"The 911 Turbo also offers an optional X50 engine enhancement performance package that increases horsepower to 444 (SAE) @ 5,700 rpm and sustains 457 lb.-ft of peak torque from 3,500 to 4,500 rpm. The new package includes modifications to the turbocharger, air intake cooler, electronic control unit, exhaust system, as well as a strengthened transmission. The X50 package is only available as an option from the Porsche factory."

 

What mods were done to your car giving you that kind of pulling power over the WS-6? I am also interested in the MR that was able to pull the X50 911 turbo (~450hp) in the straight? That is more than impressive (if not impossible) if it was only cam gears and an exhaust tuned with xede, Turbo Trix tunes Xede? Not trying to bust you, just seems very hard to believe when many others have experienced MUCH different outcomes trying to run those levels of cars on the straight at all levels of tune... Maybe I missed something.


Chris

 

Is this Whp? or FWhp?

 

Road racing is vastly different than drag racing or highway runs. To lap more quickly than a higher-powered car, corner entry and exit speed comes into play. I can brake later than a WS-6 and get on the throttle much sooner, so I can build a good lead through each turn. It is not "pulling power" as the cars are not side-by-side and travelling at the same speed.

I am unsure about what happened with the X50. He did not seem to be a great driver and his car is 200lbs heavier than the MR. Maybe he did not push his car too hard, considering it was more than $175,000. I do know that he showed no interest in talking to us after he was passed.

 

It is the flywheel rating.

 

Thanks, for the clarification... I understand it is all the nature of good driving, but still very impressive...

Chris