All PM's replied!

 

you guys asked for black couplers.... Here you go! I only have around 15 couplers left. First come first serve tell the next order!





Thanks,

Michael

 

We have a bunch more LP2's ready for shipment!

Black Silicone is in stock!

Thanks,

Michael

 

I ordered my LICP on Nov 28th and did not know about the black coupler. Want to trade a blue for a black

 

If you haven't installed the coupler yet, give me a call. We can do an exchange no problem.

Thanks,

Michael

 

Can you post up pics of your V1 and V2 side by side? thx.

 

-your new LICP has 3 bends, one of which integrates the reducer going into the turbo:



-Your old LICP has 2 bends, and a separate reducer going into the turbo:



I don't understand why the new LICP flows better when it seems to have an extra bend? It is obvious that your old LICP has welds in it, creating turbulence that is now eliminated, but the old LICP makes it's bends at 2.5in whereas the new LICP has to make it's first bend out of the turbo at 2in graduating to 2.5in. I don't see where your 1st version LICP had any tight bends in it...it looked pretty good to me...better than the V2 actually. I would think your old-style LICP w/ less bends but with your new manufacturing process (read: no welds) would be best, no?

Can you help me to understand a bit? I'm an engineer and this stuff makes me nuts before I lay down my $.

Also, this thread does not show a picture of the competitor's LICP. I understand you not wanting to name names, but seeing your new LICP with the competitors LICP next to it would help me visualize things. It's obvious to see your new LICP is better flowing than the stocker but it'd also be nice to see the competitors LICP shown here to see that it wasn't some ratty POS.

Thanks,

Bryce <- just ordered 3.5in ETS FMIC yesterday!!!

p.s. to confuse things even more there is this picture of what looks like a 3rd LICP from this thread in october: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ion-8-9-a.html

3rd LICP? ->

 

Version 1 - This was our first lower pipe design. This is before we had the mandrel bender in house. We had to cut and weld the U-bends and straights to design this pipe. This pipe also clears the factory under tray.


Revision of Version 1 - This was our revision of our 1st pipe w/ the mandrel bender in house. The reason there is a weld is from the radius change in the pipe(we can't bend this on our bender). The tight radius bend was used for better clamping area on the silicone so the pipe would not blow off under load. We were also able to take out 1" of length with this design and clear the factory under tray.


Version 2 / LP2 - This pipe was developed with our mandrel bender, with no welds and uses a funnel designed silicone to take the bend. Giving us the best of both worlds. A tight radius bend, great clamping, no welds and clear the factory under tray.. This pipe gained an average of 12whp over the stock unit and spikes as high as 18whp.

Each version is a little different, but all reflect the same Horsepower gain. The LP2 made around 2whp more, but since they were not tested on the same day and months apart we feel they are both equal.

We could post a picture up of the competitor pipe, but all that will do is start another vendor war. I think we have all seen enough of that on evolutionm to last us a life time.

Glad to see you found the right intercooler, you won't regret it!

Thanks,

Michael

 

Thank you for the quick response Michael, but I am confused with this sentence:

EDIT: I get it now. All of the ETS LICPs over time have yielded about the same HP gain. They were tested months apart and not back to back, BUT the LP2 did crank out 2whp more that your other LICPs, but on a different day.

 

Yup! The Lp2 and the Competitor pipe were testing on the same day just for reference.

 

this is sexy...very sexy

 

My buddy has your LICP V1 it feels very heavy, is it made of steel? how about the new version2 still heavy? I currently have EPM licp and it is very light, less than 2 lbs

 

If you order the gloss black or gloss silver it is powdercoated mild steel. U can upgrade to stainless on their website if you wish. It is made of steel to avoid the welds (introduce turbulence) in their design. So it's the light weight of aluminum w/ welds vs. steel of some sorts w/ better flow and hopefully more HP. I went w/ the Stainless Steel due to weather in the NE. Yes it weighs more than aluminum in the front of the car, but w/ the better flow I hope to gain back more than enough HP to offset the weight. It's a tradeoff. GL.

 

Yes, we do use steel pipes with our piping kits. We use steel pipes because it allows you to clamp the t-bolt clamp all the way down with no worries of bending or distorting the pipe. This happens on aluminum if you tighten the clamp too tight. A tight t-bolt also ensures the pipe will not blow off under high pressure.

We use the same type of steel piping on our 8 sec drag evo with no extra bracing or support.

We can build an aluminum pipe for the same price of stainless steel if needed.

If you have any other questions let me know!

Thanks Bryce!

Thanks!!

Michael

 

phew. *wipes brow* glad I understood that correctly...I'm learning every day.