Dynoflash Al worked his magic...
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Originally Posted by fastrob691
i dont care what power the dyno says 118 trap is great.
While I am thinking about it how do you crush a 1G?
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Originally Posted by nj1266
You should be able to run more boost than 21 psi on 94 octane gas. You should run 22-23 psi on that pump gas. What kind of knock was Al detecting? If he was using Evoscan and was getting 3 counts, then that is ok. The consensus is that any Knock Sum of 3 and below is fine.
The 298 hp you got is not stellar since you have LICP/UICP/IC/intake/cams/O2 housing/ported header. That 298 is approximately 330 on a dynojet. That is what 9s are putting here in CA on 91 octane with TBE albeit at a higher boost level.
The 298 hp you got is not stellar since you have LICP/UICP/IC/intake/cams/O2 housing/ported header. That 298 is approximately 330 on a dynojet. That is what 9s are putting here in CA on 91 octane with TBE albeit at a higher boost level.
Originally Posted by vwjeff
You say that 298 is not that great, but I thought is was pretty good seems how most stock 9's put down about 230 whp on Daves dyno, and I am running only 1 psi more than stock
vwjeff,
Great car, GREAT ET and MPH at the track. The 118 mph is very impressive.
I don't want to highjack this thread and change the subject but I want to point out that after the mess with BBTBruno on EVOM a few weeks ago Al changed his philosophy when he is doing these tunes. When we was here and tuned VW's you car he told me the only thing he was going to concentrate on is tuning each and every car with absolutely NO knock count what-so-ever. This is exactly what he did.
The problem with the internet and this "free" tuning/logging software is everyone thinks they are an expert. BBY's car had some knock and everyone jumped on Al, this time the car has no knock and everyone is once again jumping on Al. As you can see there is not a winning combo here.
The bottom line is BBY's car was faster with Al's tune that had some knock and now VW has really kicked some butt running 118 mph and the car has NO knock. Still the tune, PSI is being questioned.
I'm glad I tune AEM's
Sorry Jeff, you kicked but with the car!!
Great car, GREAT ET and MPH at the track. The 118 mph is very impressive.
I don't want to highjack this thread and change the subject but I want to point out that after the mess with BBTBruno on EVOM a few weeks ago Al changed his philosophy when he is doing these tunes. When we was here and tuned VW's you car he told me the only thing he was going to concentrate on is tuning each and every car with absolutely NO knock count what-so-ever. This is exactly what he did.
The problem with the internet and this "free" tuning/logging software is everyone thinks they are an expert. BBY's car had some knock and everyone jumped on Al, this time the car has no knock and everyone is once again jumping on Al. As you can see there is not a winning combo here.
The bottom line is BBY's car was faster with Al's tune that had some knock and now VW has really kicked some butt running 118 mph and the car has NO knock. Still the tune, PSI is being questioned.
I'm glad I tune AEM's
Sorry Jeff, you kicked but with the car!!
I think people tend to get a little **** when it comes to knock. I have to admit, when I first started tuning my car a few months ago eliminating knock was all I focused on. It wasn't until another member pointed out to me that in order to make the most power you need to be on the edge of your knock threshold. Let the stock knock protection do its thing, thats what its there for.
You can either have a safe conservative tune with no knock, or a more aggressive tune with occasional knock. A good tuner will be able to balance these two situations and provide the customer with good results.
You can either have a safe conservative tune with no knock, or a more aggressive tune with occasional knock. A good tuner will be able to balance these two situations and provide the customer with good results.
Originally Posted by AlwaysinBoost
I think people tend to get a little **** when it comes to knock. I have to admit, when I first started tuning my car a few months ago eliminating knock was all I focused on. It wasn't until another member pointed out to me that in order to make the most power you need to be on the edge of your knock threshold. Let the stock knock protection do its thing, thats what its there for.
You can either have a safe conservative tune with no knock, or a more aggressive tune with occasional knock. A good tuner will be able to balance these two situations and provide the customer with good results.
You can either have a safe conservative tune with no knock, or a more aggressive tune with occasional knock. A good tuner will be able to balance these two situations and provide the customer with good results.
Once its actually on the street with different tanks of gas day to day, picking up a few counts here or there isn't abnormal.
Originally Posted by AlwaysinBoost
I think people tend to get a little **** when it comes to knock. I have to admit, when I first started tuning my car a few months ago eliminating knock was all I focused on. It wasn't until another member pointed out to me that in order to make the most power you need to be on the edge of your knock threshold. Let the stock knock protection do its thing, thats what its there for.
You can either have a safe conservative tune with no knock, or a more aggressive tune with occasional knock. A good tuner will be able to balance these two situations and provide the customer with good results.
You can either have a safe conservative tune with no knock, or a more aggressive tune with occasional knock. A good tuner will be able to balance these two situations and provide the customer with good results.
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Here is the slip I was telling you about.
The pass was on 112 with the BC turned all the way down, 28/29 psi
If I could get that 60 ft down and be alittle smoother on the shifting...
The pass was on 112 with the BC turned all the way down, 28/29 psi
If I could get that 60 ft down and be alittle smoother on the shifting...
If we tune a car on the dyno here, MD AWD500SE, at 0 knock count and then go onto the street right afterwards, the car has 0 knock again.
The need for a re-tune, in areas that are ACTUALLY tuned on our dyno is not needed, end of story.
I do find that some fine tuning at the road courses can make the logs look better but anything that is done on the dyno is dead on. If I chose to beat the hell out of the car and dyno by downshifting and simulating a road course situation it would be all done here. Case in point, last year the Swisher Sweets car was tuned like that on the dyno and it was also dead on. Very hard on the equipment in my opinion though.
The need for a re-tune, in areas that are ACTUALLY tuned on our dyno is not needed, end of story.
I do find that some fine tuning at the road courses can make the logs look better but anything that is done on the dyno is dead on. If I chose to beat the hell out of the car and dyno by downshifting and simulating a road course situation it would be all done here. Case in point, last year the Swisher Sweets car was tuned like that on the dyno and it was also dead on. Very hard on the equipment in my opinion though.