Timing Belt stretched @ 2years / 22k miles
Originally Posted by robert5995
Evo -
I'm having a hard time with your compression improving after a change in cam timing belt. Can you explain to me exactly how this works?
I'm having a hard time with your compression improving after a change in cam timing belt. Can you explain to me exactly how this works?

I think this addresses Shiv's points too.
If this cause seems improbable, please tell me. The solution seemed to be the replacement of the timing belt. The compression came up along with the power of the engine. The belt replacement hapened 20k miles ago and the car is still strong and running great.
Originally Posted by Dyno4mance
Come on people lets think about this rationaly...If a toothed belt is noticeably longer as claimed the pitch of the teeth must have changed making it impossible for it to mesh on the cam gears/crank gear ect maybe it grew a few more teeth....could you count the amount of teeth on the longer belt please
And as for the compression changing that idea is flawed on so many levels that I can't even begin to respond to it
And as for the compression changing that idea is flawed on so many levels that I can't even begin to respond to it
I am not trying to be a smart ***...but your post makes no sense
Gauge calibration over a few months or even a different gauge altogether could have and probably was used...this is what I think was the reason you saw a difference in the results
There is a hydrualic tensioner to regulate tension... old belt or new, Kevlar or stock...If both belts were installed correctly there should have been no difference in tension....If the new one is tighter..then it will fail earlier.
As stated before if a toothed belt stretches the pitch of the teeth must change...this does not occur...
A few months later
The tighter kevlar belt
the stock belt was either slightly longer or it stretched considerably.
Last edited by Dyno4mance; Dec 25, 2004 at 05:58 PM.
Originally Posted by Dyno4mance
I am not trying to be a smart ***...but your post makes no sense
Gauge calibration over a few months or even a different gauge altogether could have and probably was used...this is what I think was the reason you saw a difference in the results
There is a hydrualic tensioner to regulate tension... old belt or new, Kevlar or stock...If both belts were installed correctly there should have been no difference in tension....If the new one is tighter..then it will fail earlier.
As stated before if a toothed belt stretches the pitch of the teeth must change...this does not occur...
Gauge calibration over a few months or even a different gauge altogether could have and probably was used...this is what I think was the reason you saw a difference in the results
There is a hydrualic tensioner to regulate tension... old belt or new, Kevlar or stock...If both belts were installed correctly there should have been no difference in tension....If the new one is tighter..then it will fail earlier.
As stated before if a toothed belt stretches the pitch of the teeth must change...this does not occur...
I have not checked it again largely in part to the advice I had received from the people I asked about the problem and the difference in tension between the two belts. Also, as I stated, we held the two belts up to each other and the stock belt was slightly longer. All of these factors led me to believe that the problem was with the stock belt. I have put 20k miles on the car since the install without any problems.
I really wouldn't have posted here if I didn't feel that this actually happened. I do not have the sound mechanical background to debate the causes of this problem on any level. I am trying to learn as much as I can and being humble is a good part of that. I appreciate the time you took to give me an honest, informed reply.
Ludikraut -
Not likely, unless one were to change the cam timing 40 or 50 degrees, which, of course, is not a reasonable idea at all. A couple of degrees - no way that changes compression.
Not likely, unless one were to change the cam timing 40 or 50 degrees, which, of course, is not a reasonable idea at all. A couple of degrees - no way that changes compression.
Originally Posted by Ludikraut
Andrew, et al,
Just out of curiosity, would the compression change if the cams were retarded/advanced from their stock settings?
l8r)
Just out of curiosity, would the compression change if the cams were retarded/advanced from their stock settings?
l8r)
A compression gauge has a one way valve that holds pressure within the gauge



