sitting on the fence...
sitting on the fence...
Looking to go stage 2 or stage 3 prior to dyno4mance dyno day, not sure which.
I'm looking at the TME turbo: http://linux.forcedperformance.net/m...ode=Lancer_EVO, but woulld like to know about any potentially better options
This car will primarily be used for track days and autox-car needs to spool quick.
Any advice from the road race crowd? I need to get it right the first time
Thanks!
I'm looking at the TME turbo: http://linux.forcedperformance.net/m...ode=Lancer_EVO, but woulld like to know about any potentially better options
This car will primarily be used for track days and autox-car needs to spool quick.
Any advice from the road race crowd? I need to get it right the first time
Thanks!
If you want autocross-like fast spool, you need to stay with your stock turbo or get the TME 16G turbo. I got mine through Dyno4mance.com; it was a little less expensive than forced performance for the same turbo IIRC. That's a stage 1++
A Stage 3 is absolutely wicked, but a big jump in price. While it would be a demon on a roadcourse, it will definitely spool later than a 16G.
Stage 2 isn't a good option, IMO. Either get the TME turbo or go all the way with the big sucker.
A Stage 3 is absolutely wicked, but a big jump in price. While it would be a demon on a roadcourse, it will definitely spool later than a 16G.
Stage 2 isn't a good option, IMO. Either get the TME turbo or go all the way with the big sucker.
I think you're a little confused on stage numbers:
Stage 1 is downpipe, xede, xedeflash, cam gears, fuel pump
Stage 1+ adds cams
Stage 1++ adds TME turbo and intercooler if you want one
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If you want to go beyond the stages above, you have to add an aftermarket clutch, head studs, and injectors in addition to what is below-
Stage 2 is a 3071 turbo or the less expensive 3037 turbo
Stage 3 is the Garrett 3037S turbo or GT35R turbo with the custom manifold
Stage 1 is downpipe, xede, xedeflash, cam gears, fuel pump
Stage 1+ adds cams
Stage 1++ adds TME turbo and intercooler if you want one
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If you want to go beyond the stages above, you have to add an aftermarket clutch, head studs, and injectors in addition to what is below-
Stage 2 is a 3071 turbo or the less expensive 3037 turbo
Stage 3 is the Garrett 3037S turbo or GT35R turbo with the custom manifold
Stage 3 as listed on new site:
Stage Three (v550)
Includes:
Garret GT Turbocharger System XFlash Reprogrammed ECU XEDE Engine Control Computer 680cc/min Fuel Injectors
Signature Series 3” Cat-Back Exhaust
Signature Series 3-inch Down-Pipe with Test-Pipe
Pre-Set Adjustable Camshaft Gears
HKS Camshafts
Upgraded Fuel Pump
Garret GT Turbocharger System XFlash Reprogrammed ECU XEDE Engine Control Computer 680cc/min Fuel Injectors
Signature Series 3” Cat-Back Exhaust
Signature Series 3-inch Down-Pipe with Test-Pipe
Pre-Set Adjustable Camshaft Gears
HKS Camshafts
Upgraded Fuel Pump
Performance:
0-60mph in 3.1 seconds
Standing ¼ mile in 11.2 seconds at 126mph
0-60mph in 3.1 seconds
Standing ¼ mile in 11.2 seconds at 126mph
Installation difficulty:
Intermediate
Intermediate
Estimated Installation Time:
8-12
TME subbed for the GT35 gets the combination that I had in mind. TME shouldn't require a larger FMIC or clutch, should it? Head studs need to be done anyway.
8-12
Originally Posted by dsmythe2
Stage 3 as listed on new site:
Stage Three (v550)
Includes:
Garret GT Turbocharger System XFlash Reprogrammed ECU XEDE Engine Control Computer 680cc/min Fuel Injectors
Signature Series 3” Cat-Back Exhaust
Signature Series 3-inch Down-Pipe with Test-Pipe
Pre-Set Adjustable Camshaft Gears
HKS Camshafts
Upgraded Fuel Pump
Garret GT Turbocharger System XFlash Reprogrammed ECU XEDE Engine Control Computer 680cc/min Fuel Injectors
Signature Series 3” Cat-Back Exhaust
Signature Series 3-inch Down-Pipe with Test-Pipe
Pre-Set Adjustable Camshaft Gears
HKS Camshafts
Upgraded Fuel Pump
Performance:
0-60mph in 3.1 seconds
Standing ¼ mile in 11.2 seconds at 126mph
0-60mph in 3.1 seconds
Standing ¼ mile in 11.2 seconds at 126mph
Installation difficulty:
Intermediate
Intermediate
Estimated Installation Time:
8-12
TME subbed for the GT35 gets the combination that I had in mind. TME shouldn't require a larger FMIC or clutch, should it? Head studs need to be done anyway.8-12
Last edited by EVOONYOASS; Jan 22, 2005 at 02:49 AM.
Originally Posted by dsmythe2
TME subbed for the GT35 gets the combination that I had in mind. TME shouldn't require a larger FMIC or clutch, should it? Head studs need to be done anyway.
So what I'm saying is that the staged numbers don't increase beyond 1+++ until you opt for a big turbo.
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a good medium is the 3037 vishnu offers.. one of our guys puts down 420 on shivs dyno.. on race gas with the 3037. thats about 460 whp anywhere else.. thats a VERY VERY FAST car. low 11 sec... 11.2's. thats the turbo option im gonna go wiht. eventually.
Originally Posted by Vishnu_Evo8
a good medium is the 3037 vishnu offers.. one of our guys puts down 420 on shivs dyno.. on race gas with the 3037. thats about 460 whp anywhere else.. thats a VERY VERY FAST car. low 11 sec... 11.2's. thats the turbo option im gonna go wiht. eventually.
Originally Posted by dsmythe2
BINGO! Who's car is it? Someone on the board?
Here is the link to our Mitsubishi dyno page
http://www.dyno4mance.com/tuning/you...mitsubishi.php
They are sitting around the middle of the page
FWIW, everyone always talks about lag. I looked at the graph for the 428whp 3037 and the 293whp stock turbo graphs and both cars hit 200whp at around 4500rpms. just to show you that lag is waaay over-rated







