SMART and Intakes
IMO, if you really want to optimize your intake, you will:
1.) convert to a blowthrough MAF
2.) design a RAM air intake that scoops cold air (for example from the unused lower driver's side hole in your bumper) into a cone filter style intake that is shielded from the engine bay.
That's the route I will take if MalibuJack and SuperHatch can get the blowthrough MAF working with the XEDE.
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1.) convert to a blowthrough MAF
2.) design a RAM air intake that scoops cold air (for example from the unused lower driver's side hole in your bumper) into a cone filter style intake that is shielded from the engine bay.
That's the route I will take if MalibuJack and SuperHatch can get the blowthrough MAF working with the XEDE.
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Originally Posted by Jeff_Jeske
You dont have to feed the DV back to the intake pipe for one......You can pretty much eliminate the intake pipe for two......and normally the airflow limitation is much higher.
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Originally Posted by WhiteEvo05
Dustin, Calvin, Shiv:
What about intakes like the Apexi and HKS Kansai Service that 'box' in the freer breathing element, protecting it from the hot air in the compartment?
What is it about the more open element filters that causes the mis-read by the MAF? Is it that the sensor can not handle/is not calibrated for the volume of air going through it? Air tumble induced/not induced by the open element filter? Length of path of the airflow after the filter?
I know the Bosch MAF's used in BMW's are sensitive to how far the air flow has run straight before going through it...no bends immediatley before it gives a good reading...and there are large gains made in those cars with the elimination of the stock box, IF it is shielded from the surrounding engine compartment. But BMW is not known for a wonderfully efficient intake, either...
And what about the benefits of reticulated foam filters (i.e. ITG) that see a significantly lower decrease in volume of air passed as they start to build up particle load vs. paper and gauze/oiled filters that see much sharper decreases in volume passed? (Not to mention how much an improperly serviced gauze/oiled filter can screw up an MAF...) These filters are not usually found as drop-ins for the stock box.
If only I could generate answers as easily as questions...
What about intakes like the Apexi and HKS Kansai Service that 'box' in the freer breathing element, protecting it from the hot air in the compartment?
What is it about the more open element filters that causes the mis-read by the MAF? Is it that the sensor can not handle/is not calibrated for the volume of air going through it? Air tumble induced/not induced by the open element filter? Length of path of the airflow after the filter?
I know the Bosch MAF's used in BMW's are sensitive to how far the air flow has run straight before going through it...no bends immediatley before it gives a good reading...and there are large gains made in those cars with the elimination of the stock box, IF it is shielded from the surrounding engine compartment. But BMW is not known for a wonderfully efficient intake, either...
And what about the benefits of reticulated foam filters (i.e. ITG) that see a significantly lower decrease in volume of air passed as they start to build up particle load vs. paper and gauze/oiled filters that see much sharper decreases in volume passed? (Not to mention how much an improperly serviced gauze/oiled filter can screw up an MAF...) These filters are not usually found as drop-ins for the stock box.
If only I could generate answers as easily as questions...
I wonder the same thing as people have asked me the same question.
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Intakes and SMART
Well, I guess I got more answers than I expected. If Shiv believes the intake system is adequate, I will definitely forget about changing it. No gains/no change. That's my philosophy.
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Originally Posted by Jeff_Jeske
Take a look at all the high rollers and see how many have an intake pipe!
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Actually I believe they run intake pipes in vegas. Was that the same vegas that ron went to and smashed everyone with his stock air boxed stage 3 evo?
Originally Posted by Ludikraut
High rollers?!? I guess maybe they don't run intake pipes in Vegas?
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Originally Posted by Dustin@Vishnu
Actually I believe they run intake pipes in vegas. Was that the same vegas that ron went to and smashed everyone with his stock air boxed stage 3 evo?
... dude, I guess you missed the sarcasm...
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