Whats the verdict on SMART?
I did get the feeling that when SMART came out it wasn't going to be worth the 500$. IMO, it is a nice feature, but really ony if you already have the wideband that works with the system. I wish Vishnu would put up a how-to on calibrating SMART to work with other widebands, and of course allow us to buy the knock box separately.
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Originally Posted by atlvalet
Well, I have nothing to compare to since I got the XEDE installed with SMART, and didn't have anything before. I love the SMART system personally. The only 2 hiccups I've encountered is 1 rolling slowly into boost in 6th gear and then letting off the gas slightly cause a hesitation. 2, in the morning when everything is cold, the car is a little jerky. This goes away in about a minute or so. That's about it. Now I just need to get the new launch control/NLS put in. Waiting 3 seconds is no problem for me.
Yep... i agree with the others. What are you are describing sounds like normal compressor surge. It's pretty minor with the stock bov but it can get very noticeable with stiffer aftermarket units.
As for the SMART verdict, wait till we tell you how to tweak the smart timing maps
One thing at a time guys. Our only goal right now is to make sure it is installed properly and operating soundly. Once this is the case, we'll show how to have some fun with it.shiv
Perhaps there is a way to have a cleaner install. My approach was to cut off the socket pins that feed the power, ground and knock inputs to the Xede. Then I soldered on new pins where I combined the knock buffer and Xede harness wires together. Thus at three inputs to the Xede there are two wires going into the Deutsch connector. The rubber backshell on the connector has no problem accommodating two wires per pin.
Finally I used a used spiral wrap (from Home Depot) to dress the Xede harness. Overall the installation looks clean and everything fits under the OEM cover.
The socket pins were sourced from,
http://www.battsracing.com
The correct socket pin for the Xede is 0462-201-2031, Socket, Solid, Gold, 18-24 AWG. Note that there is a lower cost socket pin, but you are better off with the gold pin especially for sensitive signals such as knock, etc. Also while they are made to be crimped, soldering works just fine. The crimp tool costs over $200!
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6. My XEDE wiring looks like an abortion on a robot. I wish there was a tighter more neatly appearing method to this madness. Basically I have my entire glove box stuffed with the XEDE and various cables running to it.
Finally I used a used spiral wrap (from Home Depot) to dress the Xede harness. Overall the installation looks clean and everything fits under the OEM cover.
The socket pins were sourced from,
http://www.battsracing.com
The correct socket pin for the Xede is 0462-201-2031, Socket, Solid, Gold, 18-24 AWG. Note that there is a lower cost socket pin, but you are better off with the gold pin especially for sensitive signals such as knock, etc. Also while they are made to be crimped, soldering works just fine. The crimp tool costs over $200!
Originally Posted by Jeff_Jeske
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6. My XEDE wiring looks like an abortion on a robot. I wish there was a tighter more neatly appearing method to this madness. Basically I have my entire glove box stuffed with the XEDE and various cables running to it.
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Perhaps there is a way to have a cleaner install. My approach was to cut off the socket pins that feed the power, ground and knock inputs to the Xede. Then I soldered on new pins where I combined the knock buffer and Xede harness wires together. Thus at three inputs to the Xede there are two wires going into the Deutsch connector. The rubber backshell on the connector has no problem accommodating two wires per pin.
Finally I used a used spiral wrap (from Home Depot) to dress the Xede harness. Overall the installation looks clean and everything fits under the OEM cover.
The socket pins were sourced from,
http://www.battsracing.com
The correct socket pin for the Xede is 0462-201-2031, Socket, Solid, Gold, 18-24 AWG. Note that there is a lower cost socket pin, but you are better off with the gold pin especially for sensitive signals such as knock, etc. Also while they are made to be crimped, soldering works just fine. The crimp tool costs over $200!
Finally I used a used spiral wrap (from Home Depot) to dress the Xede harness. Overall the installation looks clean and everything fits under the OEM cover.
The socket pins were sourced from,
http://www.battsracing.com
The correct socket pin for the Xede is 0462-201-2031, Socket, Solid, Gold, 18-24 AWG. Note that there is a lower cost socket pin, but you are better off with the gold pin especially for sensitive signals such as knock, etc. Also while they are made to be crimped, soldering works just fine. The crimp tool costs over $200!
Shiv
I didn't take pictures this morning so I just went out and pulled apart the Xede segment of the install.
It is hard to see on the second picture from the left, but power and ground is handled by the two pins on the right side of the connector. The red knock buffer wire is what you see exposed.
It is hard to see on the second picture from the left, but power and ground is handled by the two pins on the right side of the connector. The red knock buffer wire is what you see exposed.
Last edited by freedom; Aug 6, 2005 at 02:15 PM.
And this is what is exposed behind the glove box. I have a map switch stuck to the ECU bracket. To be honest 99% of the time I never use the thing and given where SMART is going I'll most likely just remove it in the future.
Someone said you can't carry around a notebook to reload maps... Here is my solution. A Sony 5" tablet running Windows XP - Tablet OS. I take it to work every day so it really is in the car most of the time.
Someone said you can't carry around a notebook to reload maps... Here is my solution. A Sony 5" tablet running Windows XP - Tablet OS. I take it to work every day so it really is in the car most of the time.
Last edited by freedom; Aug 6, 2005 at 02:16 PM.
damn that looks nice. i didn't want to wait for sockets so i just stripped the wire above the connector and am going to solder them together there and put a shrink on it. should have same benefit w/out replacing sockets.
Hey Freedom where did you pick up that Sony hand held computer???
Any of you guys with smart made actual real time adjustments to the maps yet? I am very interested in a product that allows me to make real time adjustments! Imagine what kind of tune you could get being able to have someone driving the car down the road as you made changes to the map. No more reviewing logs and guessing. Really awesome when you hit a true load bearing dyno too!!
Any of you guys with smart made actual real time adjustments to the maps yet? I am very interested in a product that allows me to make real time adjustments! Imagine what kind of tune you could get being able to have someone driving the car down the road as you made changes to the map. No more reviewing logs and guessing. Really awesome when you hit a true load bearing dyno too!!
