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I still use the zeitronix /kavilco boost sensor to log boost works fairly well. Still does not beat a closed loop boost control system.
I'm still debating if to hook up the kavilco to the Xede or getting the LMA-3 'auxbox" and XD-1 to replace my zeitronix since I now only use boost and rpm. The LMA-3 has a built in map/boost sensor, rpm, EGT, accelerometer,dwell meter and various programable input channels plus Logworks2 is a kick *** program needing no manipulation of csv files formulas and spreadsheets to get meaninful data.
I'm still debating if to hook up the kavilco to the Xede or getting the LMA-3 'auxbox" and XD-1 to replace my zeitronix since I now only use boost and rpm. The LMA-3 has a built in map/boost sensor, rpm, EGT, accelerometer,dwell meter and various programable input channels plus Logworks2 is a kick *** program needing no manipulation of csv files formulas and spreadsheets to get meaninful data.
Originally Posted by Jorge T
I still use the zeitronix /kavilco boost sensor to log boost works fairly well. Still does not beat a closed loop boost control system.
I'm still debating if to hook up the kavilco to the Xede or getting the LMA-3 'auxbox" and XD-1 to replace my zeitronix since I now only use boost and rpm. The LMA-3 has a built in map/boost sensor, rpm, EGT, accelerometer,dwell meter and various programable input channels plus Logworks2 is a kick *** program needing no manipulation of csv files formulas and spreadsheets to get meaninful data.
I'm still debating if to hook up the kavilco to the Xede or getting the LMA-3 'auxbox" and XD-1 to replace my zeitronix since I now only use boost and rpm. The LMA-3 has a built in map/boost sensor, rpm, EGT, accelerometer,dwell meter and various programable input channels plus Logworks2 is a kick *** program needing no manipulation of csv files formulas and spreadsheets to get meaninful data.
I've looked into that auxbox, but you need an LM-1 also, which makes it a $600 kit. thats a bit damn pricy just to have good datalogging, when you should be able to do it all inside your tuning solution anyway.
Turns out its not THAT big of a deal. The xede works in a numerical fashion, meaning that when it is asked to read a calculated load which doesn't make sense, it simply skips the problem number, so that it does.
So what does that mean? It means that the 32 is skipped, and that row never comes into play. Never the less, we will still get that fixed.
So what does that mean? It means that the 32 is skipped, and that row never comes into play. Never the less, we will still get that fixed.
Actually with the V2 of Logworks and updated firmware (just released) you don't need the LM-1, only the serial connection between the devices.
While this could be a nice solution, the best option as you cited would be to hook up a map sensor to the Xede and do all the logging via the Xede with proper software (e.g. doesn't require computing AFR, etc).
I should have cited in stop-and-go city driving is where I'm finding the smart timing advance to help a great deal. Also notable with the low RPM torque improvement one doesn't need as much throttle to launch the car, thus one would expect that clutch life will improve.
In my case I'm running a '03. Zero issues to date. Knock on wood (sic).
While this could be a nice solution, the best option as you cited would be to hook up a map sensor to the Xede and do all the logging via the Xede with proper software (e.g. doesn't require computing AFR, etc).
Originally Posted by Sackett
I've looked into that auxbox, but you need an LM-1 also, which makes it a $600 kit. thats a bit damn pricy just to have good datalogging, when you should be able to do it all inside your tuning solution anyway.
In my case I'm running a '03. Zero issues to date. Knock on wood (sic).
Originally Posted by Sackett
I was using it, but i took a long trip awhile back (like 400 miles in a weekend), and twice i got misfires (even with the creader plugged in) and a fairly low advance, max of 1.0 or 1.5, i dont remember. after that, i didnt think that the minor performance gain was worth the UN-reliabilty.
EDIT: Oh, and i have an 05, i'm not sure what you guys have. before when i was having knock problems, shiv said dont be afraid to take out alot of timing because the 05s have a pretty aggresive timing map. maybe my timing advance has more of an impact than 03-04s.
EDIT: Oh, and i have an 05, i'm not sure what you guys have. before when i was having knock problems, shiv said dont be afraid to take out alot of timing because the 05s have a pretty aggresive timing map. maybe my timing advance has more of an impact than 03-04s.
Last edited by freedom; Nov 23, 2005 at 05:38 AM.
I have strongly considered the LMA-3 / LC-1 combination as an addition to my current in car setup. If the LMA-3 could generate an output as well to feed the Xede for closed loop boost control then I would be sold. Perhaps I could open the box and fish out the signal that has to be present...
Originally Posted by Jorge T
I still use the zeitronix /kavilco boost sensor to log boost works fairly well. Still does not beat a closed loop boost control system.
I'm still debating if to hook up the kavilco to the Xede or getting the LMA-3 'auxbox" and XD-1 to replace my zeitronix since I now only use boost and rpm. The LMA-3 has a built in map/boost sensor, rpm, EGT, accelerometer,dwell meter and various programable input channels plus Logworks2 is a kick *** program needing no manipulation of csv files formulas and spreadsheets to get meaninful data.
I'm still debating if to hook up the kavilco to the Xede or getting the LMA-3 'auxbox" and XD-1 to replace my zeitronix since I now only use boost and rpm. The LMA-3 has a built in map/boost sensor, rpm, EGT, accelerometer,dwell meter and various programable input channels plus Logworks2 is a kick *** program needing no manipulation of csv files formulas and spreadsheets to get meaninful data.
Last edited by freedom; Nov 23, 2005 at 05:41 AM.
I found this on the LogWorks2 manual. I guess it's worth a try to build one and use it to power the Kavilco sensor hooked up to AN2in. 
I still think that LC1>LMA3>XD-1>PC for datalogging and monitoring is a kick *** setup.

I still think that LC1>LMA3>XD-1>PC for datalogging and monitoring is a kick *** setup.
Originally Posted by freedom
Actually with the V2 of Logworks and updated firmware (just released) you don't need the LM-1, only the serial connection between the devices.
Ok, so this is a new thing then. I had emailed Innovate about this just two months ago, and got the response that 'no, it wont work without an LM-1'
The firmware is posted on their forum.
Originally Posted by Sackett
Ok, so this is a new thing then. I had emailed Innovate about this just two months ago, and got the response that 'no, it wont work without an LM-1'


