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Old Mar 16, 2006 | 07:30 PM
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Tales from the Dyno 3/16/05 EVO 8

A new customer drove down all the way from Oregon today to get his white 04 EVO tuned. It came to the shop with the following mods:

Full 3" exhaust
HKS intake
Buddy Club 264/264 camshafts
Fidanze cam gears
Tubular exhaust manifold
10.5 exhaust housing
Fuel pump
MBC
Base flash from 3rd party (not custom tuned)

We baselined it on the dyno. It put down 225-230whp with good consistency. AFR was a bit on the rich side Peak HP was right at 7300rpm.

Then we wrote over his existing reflash with an XEDEFlash. Then we installed the XEDE that the customer bought used from someone who just sold his car We left the MBC in for the time being and made no adjustments to it.

With the baseline Stg 1+ map uploaded, it made a reasonable 265whp. But AFR was uncomfortably lean to do the intake. It shifted the entire AFR curve upwards (leaner) by 1-1.5 points. So we richened up the fuel map (almost globally under boost) until AFR was in the desired range. Then we tweaked the timing table a bit to smoothen things out. Ended up making 278whp.

Then we uninstalled the MBC and reinstalled factory boost lines (which the customer brought down with him). Then we hooked up the XEDE's built-in boost contoller. Peak boost remained unchanged at 21-22psi. But boost taper reduced by ~1psi. Power was now at 283whp with good consistency.

All in all, we picked up 60whp at 7000rpm. And no less than 50whp everwhere above 5000rpm. It ended up around where it should be with the given mods. The road test went without hitch and the customer drove home seemingly satisfied.

Dyno results below:

Before vs. After (WHP and Torque)


Before vs. After (AFR and Boost)

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Old Mar 16, 2006 | 07:52 PM
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i cant wait to get my evo, trust me i'll be bugging you guys for all the mods and tunning
Old Mar 16, 2006 | 07:58 PM
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He is a brave man to do that drive. I meet him this morning when I sold him the xede glad to know everything went well and he was within 2hp of what it was running on my car. Wish I still had my evo
Old Mar 16, 2006 | 08:12 PM
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David,

Good numbers!! Carlos

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Old Mar 16, 2006 | 08:12 PM
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Very nice. This confirms my beliefs that an EVO 8 with cams is on par with a EVO 9 w/exhaust.

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Old Mar 16, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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leif-- Please cut it out. We've had enough drama this week.
Old Mar 17, 2006 | 04:36 AM
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Phenomenal job guys!
By the looks of the new graph, I bet the customer could not wipe the smile from his face driving that car back to Oregon.

The fact that you were able to sustain more boost up top with XEDE boost control is very interesting to me.
Old Mar 17, 2006 | 05:03 AM
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yupyup hes so dang happy. So on the Dynojet whats that hp translates into??
I have no clue with DD

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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 06:04 AM
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~320whp
Old Mar 17, 2006 | 06:09 AM
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thats on 91 pump gas right?
Old Mar 17, 2006 | 08:15 AM
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320whp with only those mods that a dam good tune
GOOD GOD!!
I want his car
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Then we uninstalled the MBC and reinstalled factory boost lines (which the customer brought down with him). Then we hooked up the XEDE's built-in boost contoller. Peak boost remained unchanged at 21-22psi. But boost taper reduced by ~1psi. Power was now at 283whp with good consistency.


pLEASE EXPLAIN HOW THIS WORKS. My boost control via the xede was not working and I was not able to find the reason. Tried everything. I ended up going to a MBC. I was under the impression that a MBC may hold boost a little better.

Also, what could be wrong with my xede/car that would have my car seeing 27psi with boost table zero'd?

Installed a MBC and it works fine.
Old Mar 17, 2006 | 08:50 AM
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so the run was based on 91 oct? so on 93 it would make more!!???
Old Mar 17, 2006 | 09:02 AM
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Then we uninstalled the MBC and reinstalled factory boost lines (which the customer brought down with him). Then we hooked up the XEDE's built-in boost contoller. Peak boost remained unchanged at 21-22psi. But boost taper reduced by ~1psi. Power was now at 283whp with good consistency.


pLEASE EXPLAIN HOW THIS WORKS. My boost control via the xede was not working and I was not able to find the reason. Tried everything. I ended up going to a MBC. I was under the impression that a MBC may hold boost a little better.

Also, what could be wrong with my xede/car that would have my car seeing 27psi with boost table zero'd?

Installed a MBC and it works fine.
You have either an installation problem, pill in wrong spot, roatated pill, or pinched line. Best bet is to take is somewhere that can diagnose it for you.
Old Mar 17, 2006 | 09:08 AM
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I can't believe how rich the stock ecu runs! Seeing all the charts makes me really want to do an exede/flash before any mods.



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