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Old May 16, 2006 | 08:22 AM
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Question Shiv/Dustin/ or you other "Vishnu-ites", need help

I am going to AMS thursday to pick up my 2.3L stroker. Hats off to them for getting me a motor to compete June 3rd. I will keep my stock injectors, until I can get a tune with the Stroker AND larger injectors. I just need to know what to set my boost tables to, in order to run the car. I have Methanol, so would it be wise to leave that OFF until I get a tune? I think if I leave my boost "low" and stock injectors, I should be fine. Do you guys agree? or disagree? The events I will run are:

3 passes at each:

1/4 mile drag
700ft slalom
100-0 braking
0-60 MPH acceleration
Large autoX
skidpad


Can I run these events with lowered boost, and stock injectors and a stroker? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Mods below, will use the TME turbo for now.
Old May 16, 2006 | 08:36 AM
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IMHO, I wouldn't run any of those events on an un-tuned motor. Why not have AMS reflash your ECU until Shiv comes to your area again?
Old May 16, 2006 | 08:38 AM
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Well most importantly you need to break-in this motor properly. Next as far as boost I would run 19psi and if you have wideband I would keep an eye on that too, make sure you are running high 10s or very low 11s. As far as running the methanol, I would have it off until the car is tuned.
Old May 16, 2006 | 08:45 AM
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Thanks guys, that helps! I have an AEM UEGO guage on the dash, and can keep an eye on it. I was told you dont need a flash if you keep the stock injectors, just keep the boost "down". want to know what that "safe" boost level might be? I thought around 12-15 psi. I will break it in properly.
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Why not have Martin at AMS tune your Xede?


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Old May 16, 2006 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by smokedmustang
Thanks guys, that helps! I have an AEM UEGO guage on the dash, and can keep an eye on it. I was told you dont need a flash if you keep the stock injectors, just keep the boost "down". want to know what that "safe" boost level might be? I thought around 12-15 psi. I will break it in properly.
Sure you can go as low as 15psi, thats even safer. But make sure that when u are at WOT the A/F are nice and low. Remember, you got a new motor and untuned car, just take easy on her until Shiv does his magic. I can only the imagine the spool with TME turbo, just wow.
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I'm assuming your stroker kit has forged pistons, aftermarket rings, etc. Talk to AMS, but I doubt there is too much of a "break in period".

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Why not have Martin at AMS tune your Xede?


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I say the samething let Martin tune the Xede to a nice conservative map. Vishnu and AMS have good relationship. I understand you don't want to ask Martin to tune somebody elses stuff but you are already being a motor from, he got ur business. You could of bought a buschur motor. So in return favor, he can tune ur motor, I am almost positive he will not mind. In the end its all about the business.
Old May 16, 2006 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by jj_008
IMHO, I wouldn't run any of those events on an un-tuned motor. Why not have AMS reflash your ECU until Shiv comes to your area again?

+1

You wouldn't wear an untailored off the rack suit to your wedding would you?

or

You wouldn't run a marathon with out training...

Swapping out a block can create issues, some which can be sorted out right away, others may take time. Even if you swapped out a 2.0, you might not be ready.

IMO, don't rush. Flip burgers and do another event like this in the summer.
Old May 16, 2006 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaylenospoolboy
+1

You wouldn't wear an untailored off the rack suit to your wedding would you?

or

You wouldn't run a marathon with out training...

Swapping out a block can create issues, some which can be sorted out right away, others may take time. Even if you swapped out a 2.0, you might not be ready.

IMO, don't rush. Flip burgers and do another event like this in the summer.
When did you see my wedding photo?? I asked Buschur, and they couldn't get a motor out in time, AMS could. Martin is booked up until July and wont be able to tune the car before the event. I am thinking of taking it to Andrew at Dyno4mance to tune it, so I can get off the burger flippin line!!

Thanks for your input guys, it means alot.
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Originally Posted by Jaylenospoolboy
+1

You wouldn't wear an untailored off the rack suit to your wedding would you?

or

You wouldn't run a marathon with out training...

Swapping out a block can create issues, some which can be sorted out right away, others may take time. Even if you swapped out a 2.0, you might not be ready.

IMO, don't rush. Flip burgers and do another event like this in the summer.
I don't think you understand. Kevin is the Team Import Captain of WW2. The event is June 3rd, less than 3 weeks away. His best bet is to have Martin tune the Xede at AMS.

I seriously doubt that Shiv will be out here in the Midwest again any time soon.

Break in period on built motors is minimal. Just enough to properly seat the rings.

Dave
Old May 16, 2006 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Silencer
I don't think you understand. Kevin is the Team Import Captain of WW2. The event is June 3rd, less than 3 weeks away. His best bet is to have Martin tune the Xede at AMS.

I seriously doubt that Shiv will be out here in the Midwest again any time soon.

Break in period on built motors is minimal. Just enough to properly seat the rings.

Dave
Thanks Dave, I could sit it out I guess, but the kids who "signed" the car, WANT me to race on their behalf. I owe it to them!! I will call Andrew, and make the 7 hour trek next week if he can fit me in!! I don't like to jump in line, I wait like everyone else.
Old May 16, 2006 | 10:27 AM
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I will be getting the car tuned ad Dyno4mance next thursday, so we can see what I put down, and will be ready June 3rd. 7 hours one way. drive down with little boost? or trailer it?




Old May 16, 2006 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by smokedmustang
I will be getting the car tuned ad Dyno4mance next thursday, so we can see what I put down, and will be ready June 3rd. 7 hours one way. drive down with little boost? or trailer it?




Trailer it. When you switch out a block, all sorts of stuff can break, come loose - even with the best mechanics. You don't want to be in the middle of no where with the car if it breaks. Then you might even miss your gig... .
Old May 16, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaylenospoolboy
Trailer it. When you switch out a block, all sorts of stuff can break, come loose - even with the best mechanics. You don't want to be in the middle of no where with the car if it breaks. Then you might even miss your gig... .
Great idea, thanks!



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