Dsm Xede
Originally posted by Eric Lyublinsky
Thomas the DSMlink offers so many features, but what do you feel the DSMlink does not do right?
Thomas the DSMlink offers so many features, but what do you feel the DSMlink does not do right?
Thomas Dorris
Originally posted by twdorris
Sorry, this is Shiv's thread. I don't intend to hijack it answering questions about DSMLink unless Shiv himself brings us up. You can certainly contact me off line if you're interested. Or start a new thread out of Vishnu's area. I have no intentions of disrepecting a vendor's forum.
Thomas Dorris
Sorry, this is Shiv's thread. I don't intend to hijack it answering questions about DSMLink unless Shiv himself brings us up. You can certainly contact me off line if you're interested. Or start a new thread out of Vishnu's area. I have no intentions of disrepecting a vendor's forum.
Thomas Dorris
Eric
I've asked for a few upgrades to the DSMLink client over the past 2 years, and all of them have been included in the latest release. I could have coded them myself since the laptop client is written in Java, and open-source, but I'm too damn lazy when it comes to coding. 
Actually, I do wish that I could adjust the DSMLink V2 coolant offset either up or down so that I could get the ECU to keep from retarding timing by one degree once the coolant temp hits 206 degrees F. Currently, you can only add an offset to the coolant temp, not subtract. Tom said that it might be possible to use a 2's compliment number in the client to get it to subtract instead of add, but he would have to take a look at it. Even if it can't, I could install a resistor or potentiometer on the coolant temp line going into the ECU to get around it.
Other than that, I can't think of anything.

Actually, I do wish that I could adjust the DSMLink V2 coolant offset either up or down so that I could get the ECU to keep from retarding timing by one degree once the coolant temp hits 206 degrees F. Currently, you can only add an offset to the coolant temp, not subtract. Tom said that it might be possible to use a 2's compliment number in the client to get it to subtract instead of add, but he would have to take a look at it. Even if it can't, I could install a resistor or potentiometer on the coolant temp line going into the ECU to get around it.
Other than that, I can't think of anything.
Originally posted by Eric Lyublinsky
But if this is Shiv area why does Shape always jumps on this and compares DSMlink to Exed?
But if this is Shiv area why does Shape always jumps on this and compares DSMlink to Exed?
Besides, the first refernce to DSMLink in this thread was actually by you.
Shape originally just posted asking for clarification on what it took to get the Xede thing running on a 2G DSM.Thomas Dorris
Originally posted by Eric Lyublinsky
Good point. and I understand. But if this is Shiv area why does Shape always jumps on this and compares DSMlink to Exed?
Good point. and I understand. But if this is Shiv area why does Shape always jumps on this and compares DSMlink to Exed?
Hey guys,
Shiv did a quick tune on my 97 GSX on 91 octane pump gas and got a very safe (10.1 A/F) 294 whp out of my car.
That was at 18 psi running the XEDE. I was amazed that it only took a few pulls to tune the car from scratch. We will put some race gas in today (100 octane and 118 octane) as well as fine tune the 91 map. My car made 145 whp when it was stock on our dyno so I am very pleased with twice the wheel horsepower running so conservatively on this 91 swill. I will post up results later today of the race gas mapping. I am not sure if I can get close to our shop Evo(450WHP), but it will be fun trying.
Shiv did a quick tune on my 97 GSX on 91 octane pump gas and got a very safe (10.1 A/F) 294 whp out of my car.
That was at 18 psi running the XEDE. I was amazed that it only took a few pulls to tune the car from scratch. We will put some race gas in today (100 octane and 118 octane) as well as fine tune the 91 map. My car made 145 whp when it was stock on our dyno so I am very pleased with twice the wheel horsepower running so conservatively on this 91 swill. I will post up results later today of the race gas mapping. I am not sure if I can get close to our shop Evo(450WHP), but it will be fun trying.
Originally posted by DSMBRETT
Hey guys,
Shiv did a quick tune on my 97 GSX on 91 octane pump gas and got a very safe (10.1 A/F) 294 whp out of my car.
That was at 18 psi running the XEDE. I was amazed that it only took a few pulls to tune the car from scratch. We will put some race gas in today (100 octane and 118 octane) as well as fine tune the 91 map. My car made 145 whp when it was stock on our dyno so I am very pleased with twice the wheel horsepower running so conservatively on this 91 swill. I will post up results later today of the race gas mapping. I am not sure if I can get close to our shop Evo(450WHP), but it will be fun trying.
Hey guys,
Shiv did a quick tune on my 97 GSX on 91 octane pump gas and got a very safe (10.1 A/F) 294 whp out of my car.
That was at 18 psi running the XEDE. I was amazed that it only took a few pulls to tune the car from scratch. We will put some race gas in today (100 octane and 118 octane) as well as fine tune the 91 map. My car made 145 whp when it was stock on our dyno so I am very pleased with twice the wheel horsepower running so conservatively on this 91 swill. I will post up results later today of the race gas mapping. I am not sure if I can get close to our shop Evo(450WHP), but it will be fun trying.
294 on 91octain. That's moving
Thanks Eric. I wouldn't be surprised if their is another 10-15 whp left on the pump gas mapping as I still had a 1/4 tank of 11 month old gas in the car!
My car is now almost making the same power as a 1997 Porsche 911 turbo and a 03 Z06 Vette on 91 octane.
My car is now almost making the same power as a 1997 Porsche 911 turbo and a 03 Z06 Vette on 91 octane.
Originally posted by DSMBRETT
Thanks Eric. I wouldn't be surprised if their is another 10-15 whp left on the pump gas mapping as I still had a 1/4 tank of 11 month old gas in the car!
My car is now almost making the same power as a 1997 Porsche 911 turbo and a 03 Z06 Vette on 91 ocatne.
Thanks Eric. I wouldn't be surprised if their is another 10-15 whp left on the pump gas mapping as I still had a 1/4 tank of 11 month old gas in the car!
My car is now almost making the same power as a 1997 Porsche 911 turbo and a 03 Z06 Vette on 91 ocatne.
Last time Shiv was here tuning I got a ride in a 700whp 97 TT 911. Fast is a understatment. Traps 135 on street tires. SMOOTH! guy is using a uni-chip for EM. We got up to 165mph between two exits (about less then a mile apart).
Need less to say I was very impressed and scared for dear life. My nees were shaking when I got out of the car. Big Motors with two turbos = scared ERIC LYUBLINSKY
Puss
Originally posted by Eric Lyublinsky
Oh to be humbaled by a GSX after spending a 100K on a Porsche.
Last time Shiv was here tuning I got a ride in a 700whp 97 TT 911. Fast is a understatment. Traps 135 on street tires. SMOOTH! guy is using a uni-chip for EM. We got up to 165mph between two exits (about less then a mile apart).
Need less to say I was very impressed and scared for dear life. My nees were shaking when I got out of the car. Big Motors with two turbos = scared ERIC LYUBLINSKY
Oh to be humbaled by a GSX after spending a 100K on a Porsche.
Last time Shiv was here tuning I got a ride in a 700whp 97 TT 911. Fast is a understatment. Traps 135 on street tires. SMOOTH! guy is using a uni-chip for EM. We got up to 165mph between two exits (about less then a mile apart).
Need less to say I was very impressed and scared for dear life. My nees were shaking when I got out of the car. Big Motors with two turbos = scared ERIC LYUBLINSKY
I too am a very satisfied customer running the link and was considering e-mailing Thomas or Dave about this thread. The biggest advantage to me is ease of use. I can hand the handbook to anyone with a little car knowledge or give them a 5 minute lesson and they could probably tune the product just fine. Also, I believe any piggyback that lies to the computer to get a certain result is a ****ty way to do things even if they can or cannot be corrected. plus I love my datalogger!
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Originally posted by twdorris
[B I only said if one were to claim that was needed, then yeah, you could consider DSMLink slightly (ever so) limiting. But I don't feel that type of adjustment is necessary if you use the factory defined values as they were intended. [/B]
[B I only said if one were to claim that was needed, then yeah, you could consider DSMLink slightly (ever so) limiting. But I don't feel that type of adjustment is necessary if you use the factory defined values as they were intended. [/B]
I assert that the factory's "defined values" are not very useful as tuning strategies vary between a 200hp stocker and a 500hp modified car.
Furthermore, you're comments regarding the inherent problems with piggybacks (MAF adjustments induce timing changes) isn't an issue if you are using a load bearing dyno to determine the necessary timing offsets. That is tuning, afterall. Just because you can't do it accurately on a dynojet or on the road, doesn't mean that it can't be done.
My 2c,
shiv


