Stage 2 Update
Originally Posted by David@Vishnu
Whew still a bit of torquing to do on the 3071- clutch and tuning tomorrow
Originally Posted by Smogrunner
That boy is TIRED. He meant to say 3037. Good work David. Hey what is Brett's screenname?
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david or shiv, i pmed u but never got responce, so i ask here again
will the atp turbo kit fit onto the buschur racing front mount intercooler? and turback exhaust because i m thinking of getting this kit?
will the atp turbo kit fit onto the buschur racing front mount intercooler? and turback exhaust because i m thinking of getting this kit?
Originally Posted by FDizzleBrett
Take your pick Tom , this one or dsmbrett.
Brett.
Brett.
Last edited by Smogrunner; Jul 26, 2004 at 08:04 AM.
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Originally Posted by o00o
david or shiv, i pmed u but never got responce, so i ask here again
will the atp turbo kit fit onto the buschur racing front mount intercooler? and turback exhaust because i m thinking of getting this kit?
will the atp turbo kit fit onto the buschur racing front mount intercooler? and turback exhaust because i m thinking of getting this kit?
That we don't know. The atp kit has its own ic piping for the turbo, and it is meant to mate up to the factory intercooler. The downpipe is meant to fit up to the factory cat, so it depends on the design of the exhaust you have.
I have the buschur intercooler, you may have to shorten the discharge pipe slightly but it should line up pretty close to where the stock elbow ends up mating to the turbo outlet discharge pipe. Comparing the stock pipe to the buschur, it looked almost the same length, I think just a different diameter.. You might need a new coupler though..
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Yes we did, it made 305whp on 91 sludge and 360 on 98ish octane. Comparing Shiv's 3037 dynoplot and this one, the spoolup is identical, but shiv's keeps climbing way up top because it has the tubular manifold. Overall, in my opinion at least, I think its a great kit. I sure would like to see this same 3037 kit with a tubular manifold that was meant to be a direct replacement of the factory one. Maybe one such as DNP, they produce a pretty nice manifold. A manifold such as that would help a lot. 
The install on the kit is fairly straight forward too, actually pretty "easy" in my book.
The install on the kit is fairly straight forward too, actually pretty "easy" in my book.
Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu
This is David under Shivs account,
There will be the no holds barred tubular manifold kit to pair with the regular casting Garrett turbos. However the ATP casted turbos (they are right down the street from us with their own foundary for casting) are excellent for our customers (and Lambtron and I) to install with ease and the utmost reliability and lowest cost. We feel its a great comprimise that gives up very little in power output when compared to outright race ready manifolds and hotside housings.
David under Shivs account
There will be the no holds barred tubular manifold kit to pair with the regular casting Garrett turbos. However the ATP casted turbos (they are right down the street from us with their own foundary for casting) are excellent for our customers (and Lambtron and I) to install with ease and the utmost reliability and lowest cost. We feel its a great comprimise that gives up very little in power output when compared to outright race ready manifolds and hotside housings.
David under Shivs account
So, like was posted above, they offer their own, full stage two which is expensive but makes huge power, and they offer the ATP kits which are much more affordable and durable (ex manifold) over the very long run, but they sacrifice high rpm horsepower. But even with these sacrifices, the ATP3037 made between 414 and 424whp when converted to a dynojet on around 98 octane (not c16).
Last edited by Smogrunner; Jul 28, 2004 at 06:28 PM.
Why do the dynoflash people insist on starting these pointless arguments? You could ask dynoflash why they do not make their own kit. I'm sure the reason is it may be cheaper for ATP to make these turbo kits for vishnu than if vishnu produced the kits themselves. The ATP kit is roughly $2400, however, a vishnu turbo kit with all the bells and whistles would probably cost >$4000. Same goes for dynoflash, they use Buschurs kit because it is cheaper for them to use someone else’s setup. These other kits are a better price point for their customers.
And Kevin, don’t come in here or any other post for that matter and try to get a rise out of anyone because you have a thing against Vishnu or because you were unable to get your xede working properly. I think its best if you just stuck with one company, because you seem like if something doesn’t work out the way you wanted it for your car you place full blame on the tuner that tried to help you. Stop being so polarizing.
And Kevin, don’t come in here or any other post for that matter and try to get a rise out of anyone because you have a thing against Vishnu or because you were unable to get your xede working properly. I think its best if you just stuck with one company, because you seem like if something doesn’t work out the way you wanted it for your car you place full blame on the tuner that tried to help you. Stop being so polarizing.
Originally Posted by Event-Horizon
Why do the dynoflash people insist on starting these pointless arguments?
We now return to our regularly scheduled topic....
