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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 04:05 PM
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Denatured alcohol = Methanol ???

Sorry for the dumb question but I'm no chemist.

I just came from from my local home depot which is like 10 minutes away from me.

I was looking for methanol but only found "denatured alcohol" in the paint section, which was selling for like $11.99 a gallon...

I just bought an SMC alky kit and was trying to figure out what kinda juice to run.

At this time i may just run windshield washer fluid, even water since its cheaper than the other exotic chemicals.
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 04:10 PM
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I am a chemist.

Denatured alcohol = Ethanol (grain alcohol) with just enough methanol added to make it poisonous for drinking.
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 04:14 PM
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Go with methyl alcohol. Higher alcohols like ethyl alcohol, isopropanol acts more like fuels rather than antidetonants.
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 04:22 PM
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look in the phone book for hotrod shops, they will have mathanol for ~3.00/gal
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 04:24 PM
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/\ I wish I could find one local...I will probably have to resort to buying a 55 gal drum...
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 04:27 PM
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Thats a good cheap way. Sell some to your buddies too
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/\ I wish I could find one local...I will probably have to resort to buying a 55 gal drum...
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 04:31 PM
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yea, but nobody around here uses alcohol injection...I might just have to order some from VP...I will call monday when they are open and post their prices..
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 04:34 PM
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alcohols are hydroscopic (absorbs moisture from atmosphere), so if you got a 55gal and using it yourself, make sure you screw the cap on tightly after opening.
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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Meth is way cheaper
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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Just so you know, denatured has an octane rating of 129 while methanol is 123 octane.
I think denatured has plenty of antiknock quality, if not you can run 50/50 mix with water.
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 04:48 PM
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DA = ethanol + minute amounts of fouling agents to make it "undrinkable" essentially it has the same octane # as straight ethyl alcohol. You get varying octane #s reported
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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Is the methanol from VP typically any better than the stuff you can get from local chemical suppliers?
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 05:37 PM
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Hey Trevor, you know anyone around us that has Meth? I cant seem to find anyone local enough for me to drive to and pick up and it sucks to have to pay the $30+ charge for shipping on small amounts like 5-10 gallons.
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue Evo 8
Sorry for the dumb question but I'm no chemist.

I just came from from my local home depot which is like 10 minutes away from me.

I was looking for methanol but only found "denatured alcohol" in the paint section, which was selling for like $11.99 a gallon...

I just bought an SMC alky kit and was trying to figure out what kinda juice to run.

At this time i may just run windshield washer fluid, even water since its cheaper than the other exotic chemicals.
Have fun when ur kit malfunctions. I have heard nothing but bad things and besides HEARING I went through 2 controllers myself and the kit malfunctioned on me constantly. Its like playing Russian Roulette with the SMC alk kit. I have yet to hear anything about AMS kit though. I know there are people out there with a functioning kit with no issues but like I said its like Russin Roulette.
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 07:03 PM
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Have fun when ur kit malfunctions. I have heard nothing but bad things and besides HEARING I went through 2 controllers myself and the kit malfunctioned on me constantly. Its like playing Russian Roulette with the SMC alk kit. I have yet to hear anything about AMS kit though. I know there are people out there with a functioning kit with no issues but like I said its like Russin Roulette.
Well, for safeguarding I will be using an AEM EMS to protect me from malfunctions.

I'm getting all my mods installed and tuned by Precision Dyno in Philly the first week of December.
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