Noogles

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I'm considering running 2 m10 nozzles for my 67mm Q-trim setup do you all think this would be too mouch?

I'll be running 28-30 psi on 91 octane and 100% methanol.

This is SMC kit.

Also anyon ehave sugestions on the switch settings i was planning on having it start at 8psi and be at full flow by 20

howard coleman

i run 2 M10s w my Alkycontrol (progressive) system on my Rx7. around 1200 cc/minute. i have removed 35% of my base fuel (max on my base is 4900) and am making above 500 rwhp.

2 M10s are for 500-600 rwhp

1 M15 is for 500

1 M10 is 450-500.

the number, say 15, denotes gallons per hour. there are 63 cc/minute for each gallon per hour at, i believe, 100 psi line pressure.

i hope this helps.

howard coleman

C6C6CH3vo

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If I was running two m10 nozzles I would run twin pumps, better yet, twin systems. Atomization would really stink with that size nozzle (larger nozzle = bigger droplet size per psi), 30 psi, and one pump trying to push 1200ml/min.

No failsafe needed, twin kit injection would be a failsafe in itself - when one of the pumps seize or fail, the other one will back up. Unless of course both pumps die at once - that would be unlucky

94AWDcoupe

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The alkycontrol pump can handle three jets. I have seen m15,m15,m10 on a 35r car with 93 octane. Block was 9.2/1 compression. Was tuned to 33psi when the AEM failed. Was working quite well. I say ditch the SMC kit for the superior alkycontrol. And start with two m15s and add a third if its not enough.

howard coleman

after actually running/tuning an Alkycontrol system w 2 M10s it is my opinion that it can easily and efficiently handle 2 M10s. i have excellent ditribution between my 2 rotors based on digitally logged egts on each rotor.

i believe the Alkycontrol system is of great quality. plug n play. all aeroquip w brass fittings. my alcohol launch point has not varied more than .15 of a psi.

howard coleman

Zeus

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Sorry to go off topic, but does alkycontrol have a kit for the Evo? Or do they have a suggested universal kit?

TurboTodd

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Zeus,

AMS has an Evo specific kit. Kit can be upgraded for larger or dual nozzel for higher HP applications. (Alky Control)

Todd

TTP Engineering

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This is a decent scale you have there.

racegate

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I'm not really sure if you are speaking generally, or referring to the alkycontrol pump, but for the alkycontrol pump this simply is not true.

I have tested the system and here is how it breaks down:

1x M15 nozzles with the pump at 100% duty cycle produces 250psi pressure
2x M15 nozzles with the pump at 100% duty cycle produces over 180psi pressure
3x M15 nozzles with the pump at 100% duty cycle produces over 150psi pressure

So even if you were flowing 3xM15s worth, with head pressure at 150psi and assume even 40psi of boost, you still have the meth coming out at over 110psi. Consider that your fuel injectors spray between 43-55psi depending on your FPR settings, and Methanol has a much better cP than petrol, so atomization big shot is not an issue and this is exactly the reason why despite intake manifolds not being able to flow 'liquid' very evenly, it presents no problem with methanol injection.


This also is not a failsafe to run two pumps. If one system died, you would still have reduced flow and go lean. How lean? That depends on the setup.

No offense, just wanted to correct some massive misinformation.

coolingmist

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Not Possible.

TTP Engineering

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If you only knew whose opinion you were attempting to contradict.

Racegate has been tuning and running meth injection since before coolingmist was even a company.

I consider his opinion to be one of the most trusted in the meth injection arena.

His degreed engineering background certainly qualifies him to make technical posts in a subject of expertise for him and he has experience with nearly every pump, jet and kit in the marketplace.

racegate

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What isn't possible? That I can't read a pressure gauge properly?

SiCKlEyWiKeD

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ownage.....



not to change the topic but I'm guessing the m7 nozzle is sufficient for an evo running 350-400hp and @ 28 lbs w/ stock turbo

TTP Engineering

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In my experience this combo has worked well on the SMC kits for the stock turbo.

Even on a 35R @ 28psi, personally I felt it was sufficient based on the datalogs.

SiCKlEyWiKeD

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thanks, I was going to upgrade to an m10 but didn't think it was necessary