Progressive pump speed injection system - Do they work?
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Progressive pump speed injection system - Do they work?
I am willing to test out anyones progressive pump speed ( variable speed/variable pressure/variable flow ) to see how well it performs. Send your system to me, i will test it out and return it to you. Results will be published here.
Anyone game for it?
Anyone game for it?
I've got an alkycontrol system I just pulled off the car (the old AMS kit). Could box it up for you.....
You're not coming to Houston any time soon, are you?
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i've already tested 1 progressive system so far...results are shockingly dissapointing
Anyone else has a progressive system and you curious how well they perform?
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input signal (MAP voltage - 0 to 5vdc) or boost pressure Vs. flow output
my test will not be able to test the dynamic conditions seen in a car but it tell if those input signal have any correlation to the flow output.
i prefer to use voltage signal input to the progressive controller because i have a very stable power supply unit.
this was the setup i used for the 1st test i did
my test will not be able to test the dynamic conditions seen in a car but it tell if those input signal have any correlation to the flow output.
i prefer to use voltage signal input to the progressive controller because i have a very stable power supply unit.
this was the setup i used for the 1st test i did
hey dubb, that will be nice if you could send that to me. nope, will not be going to houston soon. i'll pm you my address.
i've already tested 1 progressive system so far...results are shockingly dissapointing
Anyone else has a progressive system and you curious how well they perform?
i've already tested 1 progressive system so far...results are shockingly dissapointing
Anyone else has a progressive system and you curious how well they perform?
Can you elaborate on your comment :" shockingy dissapointing". My SMC has been in use for a good solid 2 years and not a single failure, the gauge shows a solid 110psi plus and the system can be switched to pump even more.
What are you specifically looking at testing? liquid flow(cc per min)? pressure (psi)? nozzle flow pattern?
By the way, you need to work more on answering your phone in a timely manner, I called you this week xxxxx times while I was there in San Antonio all this week so that I could visit you.
Carlos
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Abner,
Can you elaborate on your comment :" shockingy dissapointing". My SMC has been in use for a good solid 2 years and not a single failure, the gauge shows a solid 110psi plus and the system can be switched to pump even more.
What are you specifically looking at testing? liquid flow(cc per min)? pressure (psi)? nozzle flow pattern?
By the way, you need to work more on answering your phone in a timely manner, I called you this week xxxxx times while I was there in San Antonio all this week so that I could visit you.
Carlos
Can you elaborate on your comment :" shockingy dissapointing". My SMC has been in use for a good solid 2 years and not a single failure, the gauge shows a solid 110psi plus and the system can be switched to pump even more.
What are you specifically looking at testing? liquid flow(cc per min)? pressure (psi)? nozzle flow pattern?
By the way, you need to work more on answering your phone in a timely manner, I called you this week xxxxx times while I was there in San Antonio all this week so that I could visit you.
Carlos
there is a lot more to an injection system...notably what is claimed and what it "actually" can do.
Individual componentry is not the aim in this thread, i can start another thread discussing that if you wish
Abner,
When you make these bias tests, why do you use hardware that was not sold with the kit to begin with? you are using a 60 psi pump. Our system was designed to run a high pressure pump, we have never sold a vari-cool system with anything less than 150 psi.
When you use your "25 psi" checkvalve like you do, combined with a 60 psi pump you have a max range of 35 psi. Its no wonder you had **** poor results.
Both of these videos were done using our new failsafe and our system. A flow sensor would monitor the flow and return that value to the varicool to be reported on screen. If I had used a 60 psi pump, there wouldnt be these results.
High boost
http://www.coolingmist.com/videos.aspx?videoid=9#video
low boost
http://www.coolingmist.com/videos.aspx?videoid=4#video
David
When you make these bias tests, why do you use hardware that was not sold with the kit to begin with? you are using a 60 psi pump. Our system was designed to run a high pressure pump, we have never sold a vari-cool system with anything less than 150 psi.
When you use your "25 psi" checkvalve like you do, combined with a 60 psi pump you have a max range of 35 psi. Its no wonder you had **** poor results.
Both of these videos were done using our new failsafe and our system. A flow sensor would monitor the flow and return that value to the varicool to be reported on screen. If I had used a 60 psi pump, there wouldnt be these results.
High boost
http://www.coolingmist.com/videos.aspx?videoid=9#video
low boost
http://www.coolingmist.com/videos.aspx?videoid=4#video
David
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input signal (MAP voltage - 0 to 5vdc) or boost pressure Vs. flow output
my test will not be able to test the dynamic conditions seen in a car but it tell if those input signal have any correlation to the flow output.
i prefer to use voltage signal input to the progressive controller because i have a very stable power supply unit.
this was the setup i used for the 1st test i did

my test will not be able to test the dynamic conditions seen in a car but it tell if those input signal have any correlation to the flow output.
i prefer to use voltage signal input to the progressive controller because i have a very stable power supply unit.
this was the setup i used for the 1st test i did
I want to know how we can test the smoothness of delivery of progressive duty cycle systems and determine how smoothly the alcohol is delivered ?
One of my principal objections to those kits is the "feel" I get when the pumps are having an oscilation or pulsation
Al
Abner,
Can you elaborate on your comment :" shockingy dissapointing". My SMC has been in use for a good solid 2 years and not a single failure, the gauge shows a solid 110psi plus and the system can be switched to pump even more.
What are you specifically looking at testing? liquid flow(cc per min)? pressure (psi)? nozzle flow pattern?
By the way, you need to work more on answering your phone in a timely manner, I called you this week xxxxx times while I was there in San Antonio all this week so that I could visit you.
Carlos
Can you elaborate on your comment :" shockingy dissapointing". My SMC has been in use for a good solid 2 years and not a single failure, the gauge shows a solid 110psi plus and the system can be switched to pump even more.
What are you specifically looking at testing? liquid flow(cc per min)? pressure (psi)? nozzle flow pattern?
By the way, you need to work more on answering your phone in a timely manner, I called you this week xxxxx times while I was there in San Antonio all this week so that I could visit you.
Carlos
My cuisoity is dircted at some of the other more commonly used kits that use some variant of the larger sure flow pump
Best regards
Al
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Abner,
When you make these bias tests, why do you use hardware that was not sold with the kit to begin with? you are using a 60 psi pump. Our system was designed to run a high pressure pump, we have never sold a vari-cool system with anything less than 150 psi.
When you use your "25 psi" checkvalve like you do, combined with a 60 psi pump you have a max range of 35 psi. Its no wonder you had **** poor results.
David
When you make these bias tests, why do you use hardware that was not sold with the kit to begin with? you are using a 60 psi pump. Our system was designed to run a high pressure pump, we have never sold a vari-cool system with anything less than 150 psi.
When you use your "25 psi" checkvalve like you do, combined with a 60 psi pump you have a max range of 35 psi. Its no wonder you had **** poor results.
David
http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=386070
Both of these videos were done using our new failsafe and our system. A flow sensor would monitor the flow and return that value to the varicool to be reported on screen. If I had used a 60 psi pump, there wouldnt be these results.
High boost
http://www.coolingmist.com/videos.aspx?videoid=9#video
low boost
http://www.coolingmist.com/videos.aspx?videoid=4#video
David
High boost
http://www.coolingmist.com/videos.aspx?videoid=9#video
low boost
http://www.coolingmist.com/videos.aspx?videoid=4#video
David
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Both of these videos were done using our new failsafe and our system. A flow sensor would monitor the flow and return that value to the varicool to be reported on screen. If I had used a 60 psi pump, there wouldnt be these results.
High boost
http://www.coolingmist.com/videos.aspx?videoid=9#video
low boost
http://www.coolingmist.com/videos.aspx?videoid=4#video
David
High boost
http://www.coolingmist.com/videos.aspx?videoid=9#video
low boost
http://www.coolingmist.com/videos.aspx?videoid=4#video
David
A spray video with the associated setup will be nice


