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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 08:52 AM
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My meth set up idea

First of all, I dont have a meth kit. This is just my idea.

I see that a lot of people with the meth kit run one or two nozzles on the UICP. Is it the ideal way to go? What if we run four nozzles, one in each runner of the intake manifold (kinda like "direct meth injection")? Is it a good idea? Or is it even possible? This way, I know for sure each cyclinder get equal amount of meth, no suprises.

Another question I want to ask is. What is the main defferences between the Aquamist HFS-1 and HFS-5? I see that they have boost cut as a safety measure, how do the boost cut work on a car that have MBC? Thanks in advance.
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 08:55 AM
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I believe the reason for installing one or two nozzles upstream of the throttle body is for atomization. Having all that air flowing around the piping really mixes the meth with the air, causing a decent cooling effect, dropping your intake charge temps.
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 08:56 AM
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i know that the hfs-1 is a non progressive system and the hfs-1 is a progressive system
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 08:56 AM
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I believe the boost cut system is connected to the wastegate or BOV. It just opens it up and releases all the pressurized air to reduce boost.

Don't think the nitrous-style setup is worth it. Way too complicated and too many parts/injectors.
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 07:32 PM
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Don't think the nitrous-style setup is worth it. Way too complicated and too many parts/injectors.
I know it's a little more work, but will it work?

I was gonna use the NOS dry nozzle to run the meth thru it. Just pretty much set up as running dry direct port for NOS, but instead using meth.
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 07:36 PM
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Here

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...10002_39746_-1

I'm thinking about using four of these to distribute the meth.
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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I ran 2 nozzles with 100%meth and I had to change it back to 1 nozzle cuz the car was having a bad misfire. way too much meth.

If Aquamist offered a direct port meth injection I would buy it.
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 09:01 PM
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I've only seen that setup once and he was running a 37r turbo so lots of meth needed!


Running 2 nozzles is better than one so thats a good idea.... there are different sizes you can run to achieve the amount you want....


No such thing as too much meth =-) Leaner, more boost, more timing =-0


Cheers!
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 09:07 PM
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leaner, less timing and more boost
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 09:09 PM
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well i think so. In my case I didnt want my tune to be leaned way out to be running strickly on meth.
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 10:00 PM
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See, the beauty of my set up is you can run the what ever nozzle come with the aquamist and then that suppy of meth will get split into four equally portion. And if you want to get tricky, you can use the NOS jet to precisely regulate meth in each runner.
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 10:16 PM
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If your cylinders are getting an equal supply of air, they will get an equal supply of meth/alky if it comes from the UICP. This system requires too much work for minimal benefits. No one right now is really having problems with equal distribution of meth.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Forrest Gump 9
First of all, I dont have a meth kit. This is just my idea.

I see that a lot of people with the meth kit run one or two nozzles on the UICP. Is it the ideal way to go? What if we run four nozzles, one in each runner of the intake manifold (kinda like "direct meth injection")? Is it a good idea? Or is it even possible? This way, I know for sure each cyclinder get equal amount of meth, no suprises.

Another question I want to ask is. What is the main defferences between the Aquamist HFS-1 and HFS-5? I see that they have boost cut as a safety measure, how do the boost cut work on a car that have MBC? Thanks in advance.
Direct port injection with one Aquamist nozzle per intake runner has been done many times, if not on Evos on other cars. Just go to Aquamist's website and look at pictures of other setups. I think it is a good approach, but expensive and complicated. You also lose some of the cooling benefits of the the IC pipe approach.

The difference between the HFS-1 and the HFS-5 is that, once triggered, the HFS-1 sprays a constant amount and the HFS-5 sprays in proportion to whatever your fuel injectors are spraying.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 08:00 AM
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Its been done many times like others have said but for me personally I don't really see a benefit for the amount of work needed to make that sort of install...smaller injectors and high pressure usually allow for better atomization though...which is always a good thing...
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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For port injection I recommend the HFS-5......its been done a few times, port injection using the traditional 2C, 2D, 2S kits has been done many times.

Whats needed in addition to the HFS-5 kit as shipped so as to run port injection is a couple of more jet adapters, .4 x 3 or .4 jets, 1 more two way connector or a 4 way connector, a 30 micron filter, and some more 4mm line.
























Heres a thread with details of a HFS-5 install on an SRT-4
http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=334573
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