Coolingmist questions and Answers...ask them!
Coolingmist questions and Answers...ask them!
Let me take this moment to introduce my company, Coolingmist.com. We manufacture a wide range of methanol/water injection systems.
I will keep this thread for general questions/customer service. Please visit us at www.coolingmist.com and let us know what questions you have.
We have alot of great products that fit very well with the EVO as well as many new products we are designing for 2008.
David.
I will keep this thread for general questions/customer service. Please visit us at www.coolingmist.com and let us know what questions you have.
We have alot of great products that fit very well with the EVO as well as many new products we are designing for 2008.
David.
We just released our new Vari-Cool software. Here is a screen shot:

Here is our PDF that shows you all of the features including the programming screen, datalog, save to file, x/y chart, etc. Download PDF

Here is our PDF that shows you all of the features including the programming screen, datalog, save to file, x/y chart, etc. Download PDF
our new flow sensor is going to be released shortly. Here is a vid.
http://www.coolingmist.com/newspage....=Smartsoftware
http://www.coolingmist.com/newspage....=Smartsoftware
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I wanted to update this with our latest kit information. This is our Stage3D Dual Sequential Nozzle kit.
We refer to this kit as our Stage 3D Dual Sequential Nozzle Progressive Kit. You can think of this a dual stage, however it will be progressive with a far superior range and tuneability than a dual stage kit or a progressive kit. It would take forever to discuss all the different ways you could configure this kit, we will discuss a few common ones here along with videos to show you how it works.
First I will discuss some features:
1) dynamic range and flow range among the highest in the industry.
2) Incredible atomization at low and and high end.
3) Transition from small nozzle to large nozzle can be seamless or more aggressive.
4) small nozzle can be shut off when large nozzle turns on or can run along with it.
5) No flow restrictions in line (such as a checkvalve).
6) No pulsing.
7) Can be run in single mode or 2D Mode or 3D mode (see link below for 3D videos)
Can inject based on any 0-5V, EGT or Frequency (RPM, MAF, etc).
8) High speed and high pressure.
9) No checkvalve
10) Complete failsafe for those that have an electronic boost controller, for those that dont, simply add a 3 way valve to vent wastegate pressure when there is no pressure in the line.
A Link to 4 videos and descriptions are below:
http://www.coolingmist.com/info.aspx?key=3d
In the videos below we used RPM/AIR and Boost. In the EVO you can use MAF instead of RPM if you wish.
We have a collection of 4 videos that were just finished filming in our shop. These show the relationship between our 3 inputs and how they affect the flow rate. The kit that is used in all 4 videos is our "Stage 3 Sequential Dual Nozzle" Kit. In each of these a small nozzle begins at lower load, followed by the large one at higher load and then the small nozzle shuts off leaving only the large one. The result is perfect atomization and an amazing range. In these examples we are using 3 inputs, BOOST, RPM and Air temp. If any one input changes, the flow rate will change as well. The change can be small or great. Your first 2 inputs go in a grid, the 3rd input is the boost which will be connected to Vari-Cool. After the dutycycle from the GRID is sent to Vari-Cool, it is merged with the boost. In the Vari-Cool software you setup the boost range (MIN/MAX) and tell it what weight to apply. So if you put 33% as the weight for the boost, it would give roughly equal weight to all 3 inputs. A good example of the grid may be like this:

I will update this with direct links to the videos as I have time, but for now feel free to click on the link above to read about it and watch the vids.
We refer to this kit as our Stage 3D Dual Sequential Nozzle Progressive Kit. You can think of this a dual stage, however it will be progressive with a far superior range and tuneability than a dual stage kit or a progressive kit. It would take forever to discuss all the different ways you could configure this kit, we will discuss a few common ones here along with videos to show you how it works.
First I will discuss some features:
1) dynamic range and flow range among the highest in the industry.
2) Incredible atomization at low and and high end.
3) Transition from small nozzle to large nozzle can be seamless or more aggressive.
4) small nozzle can be shut off when large nozzle turns on or can run along with it.
5) No flow restrictions in line (such as a checkvalve).
6) No pulsing.
7) Can be run in single mode or 2D Mode or 3D mode (see link below for 3D videos)
Can inject based on any 0-5V, EGT or Frequency (RPM, MAF, etc).
8) High speed and high pressure.
9) No checkvalve
10) Complete failsafe for those that have an electronic boost controller, for those that dont, simply add a 3 way valve to vent wastegate pressure when there is no pressure in the line.
A Link to 4 videos and descriptions are below:
http://www.coolingmist.com/info.aspx?key=3d
In the videos below we used RPM/AIR and Boost. In the EVO you can use MAF instead of RPM if you wish.
We have a collection of 4 videos that were just finished filming in our shop. These show the relationship between our 3 inputs and how they affect the flow rate. The kit that is used in all 4 videos is our "Stage 3 Sequential Dual Nozzle" Kit. In each of these a small nozzle begins at lower load, followed by the large one at higher load and then the small nozzle shuts off leaving only the large one. The result is perfect atomization and an amazing range. In these examples we are using 3 inputs, BOOST, RPM and Air temp. If any one input changes, the flow rate will change as well. The change can be small or great. Your first 2 inputs go in a grid, the 3rd input is the boost which will be connected to Vari-Cool. After the dutycycle from the GRID is sent to Vari-Cool, it is merged with the boost. In the Vari-Cool software you setup the boost range (MIN/MAX) and tell it what weight to apply. So if you put 33% as the weight for the boost, it would give roughly equal weight to all 3 inputs. A good example of the grid may be like this:

I will update this with direct links to the videos as I have time, but for now feel free to click on the link above to read about it and watch the vids.
Here are some videos that will demonstrate our stage3D response time. This system is using our shurflo pump (not our S-HSV). The input signal is RPM. Watch the flow sensor respond in real time to the RPM change.
http://www.coolingmist.com/newspage....ws_key=pumprpm
http://www.coolingmist.com/newspage....ws_key=pumprpm
Here are some videos that will demonstrate our stage3D response time. This system is using our shurflo pump (not our S-HSV). The input signal is RPM. Watch the flow sensor respond in real time to the RPM change.
http://www.coolingmist.com/newspage....ws_key=pumprpm
http://www.coolingmist.com/newspage....ws_key=pumprpm
The setup is this:

http://www.coolingmist.com/detailmain.aspx?pid=2507
The only difference is we are using our in house flow sensor to demonstrate, this kit doesnt come with that sensor (although it will be an option in a few months once its in stock).
David

http://www.coolingmist.com/detailmain.aspx?pid=2507
The only difference is we are using our in house flow sensor to demonstrate, this kit doesnt come with that sensor (although it will be an option in a few months once its in stock).
David
I am installing your Evo M kit with the DMS and VariCool on a car right now. I will be integrating some unique features I dont want to disclose yet though.
Would it be possible to use the DMS as an electronic boost controller using a MAC valve like AEM uses for their EBC? If this would be possible it would be one bad kit. I will also try and talk the owner into getting your flow sensor once it comes out.
When I finish getting it installed I will do a full review and post my OPINION on this kit as well as my likes and dislikes. So far I am impressed with the functionality of the kit. I dont like some of the hardware that come with it, but I will replace it with my own. With the versatility of this kit I think it will be a perfect kit with failsafes once I figure out all the programing. I never really liked the look of CoolingMist kits and thought they were over priced, but it looks to be a nice kit so far and very much worth the money spent.
PS I currently have a Snow Stg 2 on my own car this is on someone elses car I am doing the work.
Would it be possible to use the DMS as an electronic boost controller using a MAC valve like AEM uses for their EBC? If this would be possible it would be one bad kit. I will also try and talk the owner into getting your flow sensor once it comes out.
When I finish getting it installed I will do a full review and post my OPINION on this kit as well as my likes and dislikes. So far I am impressed with the functionality of the kit. I dont like some of the hardware that come with it, but I will replace it with my own. With the versatility of this kit I think it will be a perfect kit with failsafes once I figure out all the programing. I never really liked the look of CoolingMist kits and thought they were over priced, but it looks to be a nice kit so far and very much worth the money spent.
PS I currently have a Snow Stg 2 on my own car this is on someone elses car I am doing the work.
Hi,
Thanks for the question. I will PM you the new flash and new application, there are several new features you may like.
You can use a MAC valve to vent flow, or you can use our smaller all metal 3 way valve here:
http://www.coolingmist.com/detailmain.aspx?pid=11B
What hardware dont you like? We do offer stainless hose as well, I realize not everyone likes nylon hose with quick connect fittings. I ask because opinions matter and we always like to better ourself.
I agree that some of our kits are not priced economically, however we do have kits in every price range and we have many features that are just not available elsewhere. Our kits cost much more to manufacture than the kit you have and many of our competitors and significantly more development time. We do all of the software design in house.
Initially while you are waiting for our flow sensor..(And remember you can use ANY flow sensor you want. As you can user define any of the inputs)...You can use our status monitor as the failsafe. You have several options and can see which works for you:
1) set the system up to turn your EBC off if there is no pressure
2) do the opposite of #1, only power the pboost controller if there is pressure in the line.
3) Use our 3 way solenoid or the Mac Solenoid
Let me know what questions you have, there are alot of possibilities with our unit and I will be more than happy to help you realize them.
David
Thanks for the question. I will PM you the new flash and new application, there are several new features you may like.
You can use a MAC valve to vent flow, or you can use our smaller all metal 3 way valve here:
http://www.coolingmist.com/detailmain.aspx?pid=11B
What hardware dont you like? We do offer stainless hose as well, I realize not everyone likes nylon hose with quick connect fittings. I ask because opinions matter and we always like to better ourself.
I agree that some of our kits are not priced economically, however we do have kits in every price range and we have many features that are just not available elsewhere. Our kits cost much more to manufacture than the kit you have and many of our competitors and significantly more development time. We do all of the software design in house.
Initially while you are waiting for our flow sensor..(And remember you can use ANY flow sensor you want. As you can user define any of the inputs)...You can use our status monitor as the failsafe. You have several options and can see which works for you:
1) set the system up to turn your EBC off if there is no pressure
2) do the opposite of #1, only power the pboost controller if there is pressure in the line.
3) Use our 3 way solenoid or the Mac Solenoid
Let me know what questions you have, there are alot of possibilities with our unit and I will be more than happy to help you realize them.
David
Last edited by coolingmist; Jan 22, 2008 at 06:27 AM.
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