This month's issue of Chevy High Performance has a nice 15 page write up about nitrous. One of the most comprehensive articles that I have seen. Go pick it up. I had always wondered about the max amount of juice that one should run on a stout engine. From this article one of the experts in the business recomends no more that 30% of your total HP prior to the juice. So accoriding to this a 400 HP Evo should not be using more than a 120 HP shot. I So my 500 HP evo would mean a max shot of 150 which is exactly my goal once I go to direct port and a progressive controller.

 

why Nitrous? What about meth...

 

Why not both? This is what I am running with a lot of success. You will never get the same power out of meth than you can with nitrous. I plan on doing some extensive dyno testing over the winter and I will be sure to post the results of the following:

c16 and a 100 shot
c16 and a 100 shot plus meth
pump and n20
pump, n2o, and meth

I will also be doing testing on a few other parts including a high quality exhaust cutout that I have come up with. This will all be done on a built engine running a 50 trim. Hope to have some results in the coming months.

Ed

 

seeing that you're doing all that. Are you going to be introducing nitromethane. I hope your motor is upgraded. I'm sure Dan@ultimateCC inspired you, and he pushed his car to the limits to.
I cant' wait to see the results. I personally wont touch nitrous though.

 

very bad idea

 

You are right. It is a very bad idea. That does not mean that I am not going to try it, but I know the risks and I am willing to accept them.

Yes the engine is built. Nitromethane makes huge power when mixed with meth at about 10% accordng to Dan from UCC who was my inspiration. Ever wonder how certain people were able to get into the 10's on a stock turbo? I am 99% certain that most of them were running nitro mixed in the meth tank. It is the perfect cheat. Totally undetectable if you are already running meth. And no you cannot put it in your gas tank. This is not for anyone who is not willing to take the risk.

 

Will you be using meth as the nitrous fuel enrichment?

 

I'm very interested in Nitromethane. However, the details are very somewhat hard to come by. 10% nitromethane 80%meth 10% water for complete dilution?

 

Probably no water involved here. Dan from UCC was my inspiration for any thoughts of nitro. He had gigantic titanium ***** of steel. Dan is a very bright guy and it is not like he jumped into these things with his eyes closed, but like me, he knew the risks and was willing to take them for the sake of.
1. Going fast
2. Testing different combinations of "fuel" power adders.
3. Out of shear desire to learn "hands on" how to make big power without big$$$ or a big turbo.

Unfortuntatly "The Dan from UCC Story" was left unfinished. Perhaps lifetime will do a movie about it some day. The truth is that he was an avid drag racer and backed up everything he did with honesty and time slips. He was having great success with the nitromethane on the street. As a barometer, he ran (closed private race facility of course) an evo which had went 11.2 just weeks earlier and pulled several lengths on him (several times) with his nitro cocktail on a stock 03 turbo. Dan please jump in with any of the details that I got wrong. In the end the stock motor would not play ball after 2 years of serious use and abuse. But it never actually blew up. Never melted a piston or broke a rod. It simply began to cry. He traded in the car for a vette and that was the end of the story. The engine definitly had a problem though. Sounded like crank walk. The lesson to be taken from this story is that with proper tuning and monitoring of key things like AFR's, knock, and EGT's, anything is possible. Dan achieved all this with his own road tuning and a UTEC. Luckily I have access to an AWD dyno so my testing will produce lots of dyno charts and time slips in the Spring. Dan's next step was going to be to introduce propane into the mixture to see the results, but it never made it that far. Propane injection is too expensive for me to just try it for the sake of trying it. If a manufacturer wants to send me one to test. I'm all over it, but otherwise, I will not use. it. FWIW I watched a RX7 go 8.1 three weeks using propane and nitrous. Many of the turbo viper guys use it and diesel guys swear by it.

 

When will you start your journey? Would be nice if you kept it within the same temps and what not. I am not a huge fan of people doing tests with a setup, then months later change it and compare it. The gap is where the inconsistencies lie. I wish I had the budget and cojones to play around with crazy setups on my car.

 

You got it pretty much all on the ball Ed, I wish I kept going, getting the vette was both fun and stupid, the evo was a blast and it was so much fun playing with all the different additives...but yea my motor never actually died, my tranny did but that was from doing awd burnouts everytime I sprayed that bad boy in first gear or used nitrometh in first and thats not counting the 165 drag passes the car saw in the first year ...I can't wait to see you go 10s this season with your nitrous meth mix...

 

Did you ever complete "test"? Curious on the Pump, N20 and Meth setup.

 

Any chance you could scan the article for us?

 

+1

 

Can U Post The Nitrous Info