Our failsafe/controller
Our failsafe/controller
Our new smart controller has some really great features. This device is universal can work with ANY kit on the market. You can even use it to turn your single input (0-5V based) progressive controller into a true 2D mapping system for existing progressive controller kits. If you have a boost switch based kit, you can throw your boost switch away and use this instead.
On a high level here are the basics.
7 channel datalogger. extensive datalog software is included and free. sensors you can read and define are as follows: 4 0-5V inputs, 2 frequency inputs and 1 millivolt input (EGT for example). In otherwords, EGT, RPM, MAF, MAP, TPS, Air temp...and more.
You can get your RPM signal at your ECU.
Failsafe. Our optional status monitor or flow sensor can connect to the unit and either disable your boost controller IF the system is not injecting due to any problem. We have had customers integrate Knock sensors and wideband units as well.
Meth injection controller You can activate your meth injection with this unit. You can integrate RPM, MAF, MAP (if avail in your car), EGT or any other input you need. You can very easily setup multiple stages and set conditions onto which they inject. For instance, you can integrate your wideband, if you run lean you can make a 2nd stage turn on (as well as your failsafe).
Device Activation:. There are 5 programmable outputs you can use to turn on/off devices such as Nitrous or water injection. How bout using it with your map clamp? If the system is flowing activate your map clamp otherwise de-activate it. You can use any of the 7 inputs or combination of inputs to determine when to turn on/off your devices.
RPM window switch. Not only is it a single RPM window switch, but it has 5 outputs so you can set multiple windows for different devices.
Flow sensor integration You can integrate any flow sensor on the market into this unit and set your exact flow window or requirements for your failsafe. Our flow sensor will be avail shortly as well.
Convert Signals to 0-5V You can convert any one signal to a 0-5V. For instance, if you want to convert your MAF to a 0-5V (or RPM, or any other), you set the min/max range that you want to covert and tell it under what conditions (if any) to send the 0-5V. You can also take 2 inputs and enter them in a table to create a 0-5V output.
Progressive controller output 2D grid mapping. You can use this device to create a grid to map any 2 inputs and send to your progressive controller. By doing this you can take into affect 2 inputs. For example, MAP/TPS, MAP/RPM, MAP/Air temp, MAP/EGT, TPS/AIT, RPM/AIT, etc. This will make any progressive controller more accurate. The progressive controller must have a 0-5V input (any controller that you connect to your MAP sensor for example). Lets assume you have a controller that uses your MAP sensor as input. If you are at 15 PSI you will get same flow rate if you are at 100F outside or 25F. Or you will get the same flow rate if you are 15 PSI and 2000 RPM or 15 PSI and 8000 RPM. With 2D Grid mapping that is a thing of the past. If either of the 2 inputs increase or decrease, the flow rate will increase or decrease.
Setup is simple. Connect your laptop to initially program it. If your setting up the 0-5V output, just setup your inputs, your grid and enable the output.
complete smart injection documentation is in this link below. Keep in mind that we made this very extensive so you can get some great ideas. You can make this as simple or as complicated as you need. Its up to you, the customer to determine what you want to to. Smart injection can take you there..that is if you can imagine it.
Coolingmist PDF documentation
On a high level here are the basics.
7 channel datalogger. extensive datalog software is included and free. sensors you can read and define are as follows: 4 0-5V inputs, 2 frequency inputs and 1 millivolt input (EGT for example). In otherwords, EGT, RPM, MAF, MAP, TPS, Air temp...and more.
You can get your RPM signal at your ECU.
Failsafe. Our optional status monitor or flow sensor can connect to the unit and either disable your boost controller IF the system is not injecting due to any problem. We have had customers integrate Knock sensors and wideband units as well.
Meth injection controller You can activate your meth injection with this unit. You can integrate RPM, MAF, MAP (if avail in your car), EGT or any other input you need. You can very easily setup multiple stages and set conditions onto which they inject. For instance, you can integrate your wideband, if you run lean you can make a 2nd stage turn on (as well as your failsafe).
Device Activation:. There are 5 programmable outputs you can use to turn on/off devices such as Nitrous or water injection. How bout using it with your map clamp? If the system is flowing activate your map clamp otherwise de-activate it. You can use any of the 7 inputs or combination of inputs to determine when to turn on/off your devices.
RPM window switch. Not only is it a single RPM window switch, but it has 5 outputs so you can set multiple windows for different devices.
Flow sensor integration You can integrate any flow sensor on the market into this unit and set your exact flow window or requirements for your failsafe. Our flow sensor will be avail shortly as well.
Convert Signals to 0-5V You can convert any one signal to a 0-5V. For instance, if you want to convert your MAF to a 0-5V (or RPM, or any other), you set the min/max range that you want to covert and tell it under what conditions (if any) to send the 0-5V. You can also take 2 inputs and enter them in a table to create a 0-5V output.
Progressive controller output 2D grid mapping. You can use this device to create a grid to map any 2 inputs and send to your progressive controller. By doing this you can take into affect 2 inputs. For example, MAP/TPS, MAP/RPM, MAP/Air temp, MAP/EGT, TPS/AIT, RPM/AIT, etc. This will make any progressive controller more accurate. The progressive controller must have a 0-5V input (any controller that you connect to your MAP sensor for example). Lets assume you have a controller that uses your MAP sensor as input. If you are at 15 PSI you will get same flow rate if you are at 100F outside or 25F. Or you will get the same flow rate if you are 15 PSI and 2000 RPM or 15 PSI and 8000 RPM. With 2D Grid mapping that is a thing of the past. If either of the 2 inputs increase or decrease, the flow rate will increase or decrease.
Setup is simple. Connect your laptop to initially program it. If your setting up the 0-5V output, just setup your inputs, your grid and enable the output.
complete smart injection documentation is in this link below. Keep in mind that we made this very extensive so you can get some great ideas. You can make this as simple or as complicated as you need. Its up to you, the customer to determine what you want to to. Smart injection can take you there..that is if you can imagine it.
Coolingmist PDF documentation
Last edited by coolingmist; Mar 28, 2008 at 05:01 PM.
I've installed and tuned about 6 of these systems in the past couple of months. My impartial opinion of these units is as follows.
Installation:
Depending on the number of inputs, wiring is pretty simple. I've usually been using MAF frequency, TPS and MAP voltage. The unit is small enough to mount behind the dash without issue.
Programming:
The software interface can be mildly frustrating at times, requiring software to be closed then restarted in order to put the unit in config mode. The software has a "beta" feel to it, but it remains functional once you get past it's quirks. Setting triggers and limits are easy to figure out. Fortunately, everytime I've run into an issue with the programming, David has always helped me out over the phone and resolved the issue in minutes.
Tuning:
When used in conjunction with the vari-cool controller, tuning is pretty easy. It all comes down to nozzle selection and MAP start/end points.
Failsafe:
The kits we ordered didn't include a MAC valve or any other type of solenoid for cutting boost, so it was hard to explain to customers that the failsafe kit they ordered needed additional parts to work correctly since most of them had MBC's. I think David said he was working on getting valves to include with the kits now, but we haven't ordered any new kits recently. With an EBC or MAC valve, the failsafe works very well, especially when adding EGT or the hobbs switch that detects line pressure.
Overall impression:
For the price, cross platform ability and the various ways to set the controller up, I recommend this kit to all the guys that I tune that inquire about running meth. My only suggestions to David would be to iron out some of the minor software bugs and add a MAC valve to the kits (if not done already).
Installation:
Depending on the number of inputs, wiring is pretty simple. I've usually been using MAF frequency, TPS and MAP voltage. The unit is small enough to mount behind the dash without issue.
Programming:
The software interface can be mildly frustrating at times, requiring software to be closed then restarted in order to put the unit in config mode. The software has a "beta" feel to it, but it remains functional once you get past it's quirks. Setting triggers and limits are easy to figure out. Fortunately, everytime I've run into an issue with the programming, David has always helped me out over the phone and resolved the issue in minutes.
Tuning:
When used in conjunction with the vari-cool controller, tuning is pretty easy. It all comes down to nozzle selection and MAP start/end points.
Failsafe:
The kits we ordered didn't include a MAC valve or any other type of solenoid for cutting boost, so it was hard to explain to customers that the failsafe kit they ordered needed additional parts to work correctly since most of them had MBC's. I think David said he was working on getting valves to include with the kits now, but we haven't ordered any new kits recently. With an EBC or MAC valve, the failsafe works very well, especially when adding EGT or the hobbs switch that detects line pressure.
Overall impression:
For the price, cross platform ability and the various ways to set the controller up, I recommend this kit to all the guys that I tune that inquire about running meth. My only suggestions to David would be to iron out some of the minor software bugs and add a MAC valve to the kits (if not done already).
I GREATLY appreciate your comments. I want to comment to each of them to help you and any other customer that will see this. Please dont look at my responses as being confrontational. I take each of your criticisms as a learning experience. We have made many changes and I will discuss.
We are always improving the software. We are in Version 1.07 right now. Currently we are working on 1.08 which adds some really cool features. We had bugs in 1.04 that have all been resolved.
In 1.04, 1.05, 1.06 when you opened multiple windows and tried to make changes, you would not be able to. You had to do a single window at a time. The new 1.07 version allows you to save as many as you can at a time. 1.06 had a problem with importing and saving maps. Unfortunately sometimes when you imported a saved MAP it would not save everything. That was the same problem and its fixed. There were some issues with the MAP clamp (introduced in 1.06) and the 2D grid (introduced in 1.04).
All issues have been resolved and are easy to update with a free flash. This product offers a brilliant ability to do just about anything you can think of. It comes with the price of not being as plug and play, but its not by any means difficult to do.
1.08 is going to add some really cool features including the ability to "pulse and output" from 1% to 100% dutycycle. On/off time can be as much as 25 seconds or as little as 1 MS. It also is going to add 3 "Virtual Outputs". These are outputs that do not have any real I/O, however you can set them as a true/false flag and reference them in an output for decision support. We have been in testing for a couple months on these upgrades and will likely release this version in the next month.
Shortly we will have the system so it can communicate between the Vari-Cool and Smart Injection Via Serial Cable. We have been working on that for a while, once these issues are resolved, it will simply be a flash update for those that want it. Maybe version 1.09 or 1.10.
Failsafe:
The kits we ordered didn't include a MAC valve or any other type of solenoid for cutting boost, so it was hard to explain to customers that the failsafe kit they ordered needed additional parts to work correctly since most of them had MBC's. I think David said he was working on getting valves to include with the kits now, but we haven't ordered any new kits recently. With an EBC or MAC valve, the failsafe works very well, especially when adding EGT or the hobbs switch that detects line pressure.
We are going to look at getting MAC valves in stock, but we have not ordered them. I have been telling my customers to buy them directly. Those that have an EBC should not need the MAC valve. for those that do, they can buy direct.
Any bugs that you see in V 1.07 please send them my way. I believe they are all corrected in the latest flash.
The software interface was the most complex thing we have ever done. With 7 inputs, 3 leds, 5 outputs, 2 D Grid, 5 V out and the different conditions and X amount of memory and X amount of DEV space on the software kit it makes it challenging. We have spent the last 18 months to get the software where it is today.
Thanks again for your suggestions and anytime I can be of help just let me know.
David
I've installed and tuned about 6 of these systems in the past couple of months. My impartial opinion of these units is as follows.
Installation:
Depending on the number of inputs, wiring is pretty simple. I've usually been using MAF frequency, TPS and MAP voltage. The unit is small enough to mount behind the dash without issue.
Programming:
The software interface can be mildly frustrating at times, requiring software to be closed then restarted in order to put the unit in config mode. The software has a "beta" feel to it, but it remains functional once you get past it's quirks. Setting triggers and limits are easy to figure out. Fortunately, everytime I've run into an issue with the programming, David has always helped me out over the phone and resolved the issue in minutes.
Installation:
Depending on the number of inputs, wiring is pretty simple. I've usually been using MAF frequency, TPS and MAP voltage. The unit is small enough to mount behind the dash without issue.
Programming:
The software interface can be mildly frustrating at times, requiring software to be closed then restarted in order to put the unit in config mode. The software has a "beta" feel to it, but it remains functional once you get past it's quirks. Setting triggers and limits are easy to figure out. Fortunately, everytime I've run into an issue with the programming, David has always helped me out over the phone and resolved the issue in minutes.
In 1.04, 1.05, 1.06 when you opened multiple windows and tried to make changes, you would not be able to. You had to do a single window at a time. The new 1.07 version allows you to save as many as you can at a time. 1.06 had a problem with importing and saving maps. Unfortunately sometimes when you imported a saved MAP it would not save everything. That was the same problem and its fixed. There were some issues with the MAP clamp (introduced in 1.06) and the 2D grid (introduced in 1.04).
All issues have been resolved and are easy to update with a free flash. This product offers a brilliant ability to do just about anything you can think of. It comes with the price of not being as plug and play, but its not by any means difficult to do.
1.08 is going to add some really cool features including the ability to "pulse and output" from 1% to 100% dutycycle. On/off time can be as much as 25 seconds or as little as 1 MS. It also is going to add 3 "Virtual Outputs". These are outputs that do not have any real I/O, however you can set them as a true/false flag and reference them in an output for decision support. We have been in testing for a couple months on these upgrades and will likely release this version in the next month.
Failsafe:
The kits we ordered didn't include a MAC valve or any other type of solenoid for cutting boost, so it was hard to explain to customers that the failsafe kit they ordered needed additional parts to work correctly since most of them had MBC's. I think David said he was working on getting valves to include with the kits now, but we haven't ordered any new kits recently. With an EBC or MAC valve, the failsafe works very well, especially when adding EGT or the hobbs switch that detects line pressure.
Overall impression:
For the price, cross platform ability and the various ways to set the controller up, I recommend this kit to all the guys that I tune that inquire about running meth. My only suggestions to David would be to iron out some of the minor software bugs and add a MAC valve to the kits (if not done already).
For the price, cross platform ability and the various ways to set the controller up, I recommend this kit to all the guys that I tune that inquire about running meth. My only suggestions to David would be to iron out some of the minor software bugs and add a MAC valve to the kits (if not done already).
Any bugs that you see in V 1.07 please send them my way. I believe they are all corrected in the latest flash.
The software interface was the most complex thing we have ever done. With 7 inputs, 3 leds, 5 outputs, 2 D Grid, 5 V out and the different conditions and X amount of memory and X amount of DEV space on the software kit it makes it challenging. We have spent the last 18 months to get the software where it is today.
Thanks again for your suggestions and anytime I can be of help just let me know.
David
Last edited by coolingmist; Apr 10, 2008 at 10:57 AM.