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Old Nov 27, 2008 | 11:05 AM
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estimated gains with meth on std 8?

how much would it make using meth with retune.
stock block* and head and inlet and turbo and 3" tbe decat and walbro.
but block has forged rods for safety.
if i have this right with meth i can run more boost due to detonation resistance but wont more boost on a std 8 turbo just make lots of hot compressed air?
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Old Nov 28, 2008 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by leecavturbo
how much would it make using meth with retune.
stock block* and head and inlet and turbo and 3" tbe decat and walbro.
but block has forged rods for safety.
if i have this right with meth i can run more boost due to detonation resistance but wont more boost on a std 8 turbo just make lots of hot compressed air?
Huh?

Typically adding a methanol injection system will give you a 30-40whp increase for a stock turbo.
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Old Nov 28, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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meth also cools the air.
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Old Nov 28, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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i have a ix mr and when i did the aquamist kit i picked up 63whp and 112ftlbs with the stock turbo on the same dyno just by adding the meth kit. definitly the best bang for buck i ever did! call dynoflash. he'll hook u up!
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by mr-derer2
i have a ix mr and when i did the aquamist kit i picked up 63whp and 112ftlbs with the stock turbo on the same dyno just by adding the meth kit. definitly the best bang for buck i ever did! call dynoflash. he'll hook u up!
with no ecu adjustments?
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by leecavturbo
with no ecu adjustments?


Meth without ecu tuning is useless and would not get him hp/tq gain.
Meth allowed for better AFR, timing, and boost optimization thus the hp/tq gain.
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by gunhaha


Meth without ecu tuning is useless and would not get him hp/tq gain.
Meth allowed for better AFR, timing, and boost optimization thus the hp/tq gain.
thought so just wanted confirmation
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 08:58 AM
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o u need a retune with meth theres no way around that.
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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Don't expect gains as big as "mr-derer2" got. It is likely that his pump gas tune was very conservative.

I switch back and forth between pump and meth pretty often and I will say that it makes a huge difference. No where near 63whp and 112ftlbs but enough that you REALLY REALLY feel it.

I used to run pump gas to only 22psi and then going to meth @32psi was an even bigger difference. But now I run 26psi on pump and I run it pretty damm lean up top nearly 12.0 on pump. So with a pump gas tune that aggressive meth won't make as big a difference.

It is safe to say that you will pick up at least 50tq I would say. Enough to make 2nd feel like 1st, and 3rd feel like 2nd, etc...
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