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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 09:30 AM
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Porting and coating manifold...

Do you guys do any porting at works? Was considering just porting and coating my stock manifold, get Works o2 coated, and getting stock heat shield coated. Will upgrade radiator to koyo at the same time I take all this off. Just wondering if thats a good plan or just leave it alone. And I'd rather not be subjected to buying stuff from buscher, so if you guys dont do porting, have any suggestions on someone that does? Best heat coating on the market?

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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 20psiMR
Do you guys do any porting at works? Was considering just porting and coating my stock manifold, get Works o2 coated, and getting stock heat shield coated. Will upgrade radiator to koyo at the same time I take all this off. Just wondering if thats a good plan or just leave it alone. And I'd rather not be subjected to buying stuff from buscher, so if you guys dont do porting, have any suggestions on someone that does? Best heat coating on the market?

Thanks guys
+1 I'm thinking of doing this too. I'm going to try to port it myself with a used manifold I'm going to buy off someone whose taken theirs off.
Old Jul 1, 2006 | 06:43 PM
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Are you guys at WORKS alive or what? Haven't heard much from you guys lately.
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They're probably on vacation for the weekend...or out racing...

But I agree, this would be a great service for them to offer.
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 06:27 AM
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They're probably on vacation for the weekend...or out racing...
For a week and a half?
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 06:41 AM
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Uh...sure...

Sorry, didn't check the date of the original post...
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 03:35 PM
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Porting and polishing is an exact science that is usually carried out by professional engine builders such as Extrude Hone. Currently the cost is relatively high $300-350 per piece to extrude honing,polish and port the stock manifold (cast iron).

There are less expensive options but like most things you get what you pay for. When purchasing a ported manifold the most important question should be:
Is the method engineered, flow tested and consistent?...ie...performed by exact tools and machining.

Most tuners simply hand polish which to us seems a little inexact and not up to OEM standards.

As far as coatings go: the options are many but for consistency, weight savings and reliability- ceramic coating is our method of choice.

Hope this answers your questions, Kirk

happy 4th of July!

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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by kirk@WORKS
Porting and polishing is an exact science that is usually carried out buy professional engine builders such as Extrude Hone. Currently the cost is relatively high $300-350 per piece to extrude honing,polish and port the stock manifold (cast iron).

There are less expensive options but like most things you get what you pay for. When purchasing a ported manifold the most important question should be:
Is the method engineered, flow tested and consistent?...ie...performed by exact tools and machining.

Most tuners simply hand polish which to us seems a little inexact and not up to OEM standards.

As far as coatings go: the options are many but for consistency, weight savings and reliability ceramic coating is our method of choice.

Hope this answers your questions, Kirk

happy 4th of July!
ok so even if you port it by hand will you see some kind of gain but not as good if it was done as said above??
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THis is what I did. I got the Buschur ported/coated manifold, and then my installer made any adjustments to it to make it fit PERFECTLY. The adjustments he had to make were very minor, but each car is different so you want to make sure your installer knows what to look for.
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Originally Posted by atlvalet
THis is what I did. I got the Buschur ported/coated manifold, and then my installer made any adjustments to it to make it fit PERFECTLY. The adjustments he had to make were very minor, but each car is different so you want to make sure your installer knows what to look for.
y are you talking about fitment??????????? we are talking about porting
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y are you talking about fitment??????????? we are talking about porting
Because, when you put the manifold back on the car, there may be some inconsistencies with how it lines up to the turbo and/or head. My installer (WOT on this board) had to take some additional material off the inside of the exhaust manifold so there wouldn't be any kind of "lip." Does that make sense now??????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
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Originally Posted by atlvalet
Because, when you put the manifold back on the car, there may be some inconsistencies with how it lines up to the turbo and/or head. My installer (WOT on this board) had to take some additional material off the inside of the exhaust manifold so there wouldn't be any kind of "lip." Does that make sense now??????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
no because we are talking about PORTING THE STOCK MANIFOLD not porting it then how is fitment. not how is fitment. ok. so no i dont understand. we are not talking about fitment. what are we talking about?????????????????? porting. but i get what your saing but thats not what we are talking about. do i need to tell you what we are talking about again. lol
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Originally Posted by evodan2004
no because we are talking about PORTING THE STOCK MANIFOLD not porting it then how is fitment. not how is fitment. ok. so no i dont understand. we are not talking about fitment. what are we talking about?????????????????? porting. but i get what your saing but thats not what we are talking about. do i need to tell you what we are talking about again. lol
While you may not, other people in this forum can walk and chew gum at the same time.
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by atlvalet
While you may not, other people in this forum can walk and chew gum at the same time.
but we were still only talking about porting. till you got here.

your posts make sence man but that was not what the guy asked for. so dont trip while you chewing your gum ok.
Old Jul 3, 2006 | 06:08 PM
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...yeah, but the ONLY benefit of "porting" is improved flow. (and possibly a fractional weight reduction hehe) This is the sole objective of the porting exercise! With that in mind, fitment is of PARAMOUNT importance. If, by further porting the manifold, you're just making the 'lip' bigger where the exhaust gasses enter the manifold, then you're likely being counter-productive. (you'll reduce the flow rate of the gasses)

Ignoring fitment issues when porting components is like gluing carbon fibre pieces over OEM panels.... it's just an expensive way to make your vehicle slower.



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