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Evo442 Nov 11, 2004 06:25 AM

Works WI
 
Hey guys - when will my water injection kit be ready?? Also, when will you be getting more rear sway bars?

Evo442 Nov 13, 2004 08:00 AM

jaime?

jansolo Nov 14, 2004 12:20 AM

Class anyone, anyone?

wilson1 Nov 14, 2004 12:32 AM


Originally Posted by jansolo
Class anyone, anyone?



:lol:

Evo442 Nov 14, 2004 08:07 PM

:rolleyes:

EM@WORKS Nov 14, 2004 10:09 PM

Hi Everyone,
Programming the WORKS Water Injection Controller has been quite tedious and time consuming. All of the hardware has been ready and if we were not incorporating the safety features of:
-detecting a blocked jet
-detecting an open line or
-low water level in the tank
we could have released this in the early summer.
We want the WORKS Water Injection bulletproof and very very safe in every capacity. We are logging tons of data for multiple jet sizes in combination with a wide array of duty cycles to build a system Mitsubishi :mitsu: WRC would be proud of.
Thank you for being patient but we believe it will be well worth the wait.
WORKS Engineering

marksae Nov 14, 2004 10:25 PM

Damn, that sounds so cool! Keep us posted. I am definitely interested!

Evo442 Nov 15, 2004 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by EM@WORKS
Hi Everyone,
Programming the WORKS Water Injection Controller has been quite tedious and time consuming. All of the hardware has been ready and if we were not incorporating the safety features of:
-detecting a blocked jet
-detecting an open line or
-low water level in the tank
we could have released this in the early summer.
We want the WORKS Water Injection bulletproof and very very safe in every capacity. We are logging tons of data for multiple jet sizes in combination with a wide array of duty cycles to build a system Mitsubishi :mitsu: WRC would be proud of.
Thank you for being patient but we believe it will be well worth the wait.
WORKS Engineering

Thanks for the update. I'm anxiously awaiting the end result! :) I understand that quality takes time.

As far as data logging and stuff goes, do you need a test mule? I live only a couple of hours from Works! :D

marksae Nov 15, 2004 09:47 AM

I have a few questions about the WORKS WI kit.

1) Where is the water going to be injected?

2) What is the water/alcohol consumption rate?

3) What ratio water/alcohol mix is recommended?

4) If for some reason I don't have any alcohol available to me, can I use plain water? Will the WI system be able to adjust the tune if only water is used?

Jamie@WORKS Nov 15, 2004 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by marksae
I have a few questions about the WORKS WI kit.

1) Where is the water going to be injected?

2) What is the water/alcohol consumption rate?

3) What ratio water/alcohol mix is recommended?

4) If for some reason I don't have any alcohol available to me, can I use plain water? Will the WI system be able to adjust the tune if only water is used?

1) The water will be injected via a nozzle that is placed on the intercooler piping just before the throttle body.

2) Consumption rate will vary based on driving conditions. Recently, WORKS participated in a track day running for approximately 3 hours total. We didn't record consumption rates, but added two 20oz bottle of water just to keep things topped off.

3) I don't believe a final mix has been determined, but WORKS is planning to offer a premix for those interested.

4) Plain water is fine and we have used it in our shop car. Adjustments may be needed if extreme levels of alcohol are mixed. The WORKS mixture won't be at these extremes and should be able to compensate for straight water.

Good questions... keep them coming :)

marksae Nov 15, 2004 12:44 PM

Thanks for the answers Jamie! Now I have a few more questions. ;)

1) So for those of us running the stock intercooler plumbing, where would we put the WI nozzle?

2) How much boost is the WI map going to run? I'm assuming your WI system will work in conjunction with the P2 flash.

Jamie@WORKS Nov 15, 2004 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by marksae
Thanks for the answers Jamie! Now I have a few more questions. ;)

1) So for those of us running the stock intercooler plumbing, where would we put the WI nozzle?

2) How much boost is the WI map going to run? I'm assuming your WI system will work in conjunction with the P2 flash.

1) WORKS has placed the nozzle on the metal piping that feeds into the rubber coupling just before the throttle body (the same peice that branches off to the BOV).

2) I don't have any hard numbers as we are still experimenting with various boost pressures and nozzle sizes. It will be a jump up from a base P2 pressure and the two will be working quite well together :)

Spec C Nov 16, 2004 07:45 AM

1)You say if you run into a blocked jet, low water, etc it will drop boost, but one would need to be running the factory boost controller for that to work correct?

2) Does your board sit ontop of or near the ecu? I ask becasue i am very interested in a complete kit like this, where i can just slap it on, but i have a utec which sits side by side with the ecu..

boomn29 Nov 16, 2004 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by Jamie@WORKS
2) I don't have any hard numbers as we are still experimenting with various boost pressures and nozzle sizes. It will be a jump up from a base P2 pressure and the two will be working quite well together :)

This was my main question too. Is the main benefit of the WI to run higher boost than stock??

Jamie@WORKS Nov 16, 2004 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by Spec C
1)You say if you run into a blocked jet, low water, etc it will drop boost, but one would need to be running the factory boost controller for that to work correct?

2) Does your board sit ontop of or near the ecu? I ask becasue i am very interested in a complete kit like this, where i can just slap it on, but i have a utec which sits side by side with the ecu..

1) WORKS is engineering the water injection in conjuction with the factory boost control solenoid. We are able to fully control boost through it and will not require any additional vacuum lines, hardware, etc... It would still be possible to use this function with another form of boost control, but I'm not sure of what all may be involved. (It could be as simple as one wire.)

2) We have designed the control unit to be placed near the line of sight of the driver as it also functions as a status indicator. A wiring harness will be provided that simply plugs into the ECU.


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