09 Ralliart - Intermittent Wheel Vibration
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09 Ralliart - Intermittent Wheel Vibration
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Having a odd issue where my steering wheel is vibrating intermittently. When I say intermittently, I don't mean 1 day the issue is there and 1 day its back. I mean the vibration happens for about ~5 seconds.. stops for ~5 seconds... and then the vibration comes back for ~5 seconds continuously at highway speeds. It happens during highway speeds (100 kmph - 120+ kmph). 2 min video has been posted. Watch my fingers to seethe vibration.
What I have done:
Now people have told me that it might be CV joints or a bent axel.. but if this was the case shouldn't the vibration be constant?
Anyone got any inputs?
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Having a odd issue where my steering wheel is vibrating intermittently. When I say intermittently, I don't mean 1 day the issue is there and 1 day its back. I mean the vibration happens for about ~5 seconds.. stops for ~5 seconds... and then the vibration comes back for ~5 seconds continuously at highway speeds. It happens during highway speeds (100 kmph - 120+ kmph). 2 min video has been posted. Watch my fingers to seethe vibration.
What I have done:
- Balanced the wheels (front left was 2 ounces off) - but this was a constant vibration - now its intermittent
- Took off the wheel and confirmed no play left to right
- Confirmed no play up and down
- Confirmed tires have even wear
- Replaced front Rotors with StopTech slotted rotors (needed brake service anyways - rotors where warped)
Now people have told me that it might be CV joints or a bent axel.. but if this was the case shouldn't the vibration be constant?
Anyone got any inputs?
Thanks
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That is the exact speed where I have encountered occasional vibration (110-120kph) on both previous and current Ralliart.
Given what you have checked already, did you have a roadforce tire balance? If not, try to get one as the results tend to be better. Flatspotted or slightly out of round tires can also contribute to this issue. As well, be sure the wheels are properly centered on the hub and torqued evenly.
Given what you have checked already, did you have a roadforce tire balance? If not, try to get one as the results tend to be better. Flatspotted or slightly out of round tires can also contribute to this issue. As well, be sure the wheels are properly centered on the hub and torqued evenly.
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I had the EXACT same problem, around 100-120kph as well.
My tires had 40k miles on em (still had ~30% life) but I suspected it was the tires since the vibration got worse when I rotated them front to back.
Took em to my local wheel guy and he was nice enough to check them before mounting the new wheels. Turns out they probably slipped around the rim during hard braking or cornering.
Had the new tires road forced matched and then balanced. Now they're butter smooth. The only thing I feel are the bumps on the road and the occasional very slight vibration (one of my wheels was a bit off and the tire balanced to like 22 lbs road force).
My tires had 40k miles on em (still had ~30% life) but I suspected it was the tires since the vibration got worse when I rotated them front to back.
Took em to my local wheel guy and he was nice enough to check them before mounting the new wheels. Turns out they probably slipped around the rim during hard braking or cornering.
Had the new tires road forced matched and then balanced. Now they're butter smooth. The only thing I feel are the bumps on the road and the occasional very slight vibration (one of my wheels was a bit off and the tire balanced to like 22 lbs road force).
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have to agree with road force balancing. if the balance it out only slightly it could induce a harmonic type "shimmy" or vibration (cyclic vibration where it fades in and out over time).
Another theory is tire inflation, if one tire is inflated lower than the other then you could potentially have 2 different rotation rates causing the balance of the two sides to phase in and out with each other.
Another theory is tire inflation, if one tire is inflated lower than the other then you could potentially have 2 different rotation rates causing the balance of the two sides to phase in and out with each other.
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Something's inducing a harmonic in the suspension or steering. Usually when that happens it's because something's pumping energy into it within a certain period. That periodic cycle would be coming from either a weight or out of round imbalance.
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^true, but I see it as greater than 1/rev (or even .5/rev) of the wheel so even a sympathetic harmonization would have a shorter periodicity...
I am trying to express:
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versus
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Or i am wrong (uh-gain) which happens at a 1/thought as i age...
I am trying to express:
thumpthumpthumpthumpthump
versus
thuuump.....thuuump...thuuump.....thuuump...thuuum p.....thuuump...
Or i am wrong (uh-gain) which happens at a 1/thought as i age...
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^true, but I see it as greater than 1/rev (or even .5/rev) of the wheel so even a sympathetic harmonization would have a shorter periodicity...
I am trying to express:
thumpthumpthumpthumpthump
versus
thuuump.....thuuump...thuuump.....thuuump...thuuum p.....thuuump...
Or i am wrong (uh-gain) which happens at a 1/thought as i age...
I am trying to express:
thumpthumpthumpthumpthump
versus
thuuump.....thuuump...thuuump.....thuuump...thuuum p.....thuuump...
Or i am wrong (uh-gain) which happens at a 1/thought as i age...
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I have the exact same thing. Tires were replaced about a year ago and were RoadForce balanced. I am really crazy about my tire pressure, wheel nut torque and constantly checking my tires for wear etc. because I drive so much (100 mile daily commute). Wife was pissed because we paid for RF balancing and it still vibrates but like yours it's not constant. I'm at a loss and have no idea what is causing it so I just deal with it.
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I have the exact same thing. Tires were replaced about a year ago and were RoadForce balanced. I am really crazy about my tire pressure, wheel nut torque and constantly checking my tires for wear etc. because I drive so much (100 mile daily commute). Wife was pissed because we paid for RF balancing and it still vibrates but like yours it's not constant. I'm at a loss and have no idea what is causing it so I just deal with it.
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Stock wheels. No I haven't had alignment done in a while. I was waiting until after winter cause the plows cause some pretty good potholes around here. Rotors seem to be fine, no vibration when I'm on the brakes but I guess I should check those too. Thanks for the suggestions.