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Old Nov 8, 2012, 05:52 PM
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the adjustable external regulator sounds cool. anyone know how high of voltage you can run on these cars and what the first failure point is for higher voltage?
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Any chance of getting one sent to Australia? Please PM with pricing.
Also any idea of the amps on idle with the stock pulley?
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Originally Posted by 03whitegsr
When I replaced my alternator, the new alternator had a larger pulley (underdriven) then the original pulley. It was directly from the Mitsu dealership and to my knowledge, the one on there was the original. The stock belt works fine and I'm thinking some where along the lines, Mitsu decided to under-drive the alternator after 2003.
Can you measure your pulley diameter for us Michael? I'm curious to see what these two diameters are and what the alternator manufacturer is planning on using for the OEM diameter and the underdrive unit...

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the adjustable external regulator sounds cool. anyone know how high of voltage you can run on these cars and what the first failure point is for higher voltage?
No idea. I suspect 15volts would be fine

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Any chance of getting one sent to Australia? Please PM with pricing.
Also any idea of the amps on idle with the stock pulley?
I paid to have the alternator manufacturer 1 unit to test the altnerator at idle with the OEM pulley. So we'll know if the stock size pulley will work (which ever size that ends up being... according to Michael (03whitegsr) there are 2 diameters used on the Evo's.

Yes we can ship to Australia... USPS delivers there. PM on the way.

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First post updated with information and we have 12 people committed I'm waiting on the pulley test results and the bearing upgrade for high RPM use (everyone here) I suspect we'll close this bulk purchase on the 16th... so that we can get them made sooner rather than later!

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Old Nov 9, 2012, 09:29 AM
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Any comparison to an overdrive pulley option?(on an oe alternator) I came up with Douglas autoworks in a search and they said 20% more capacity there but didn't mention an updated stator .

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I've tried contacting Douglas Autoworks for a few months. Either they're out of business or don't answer phone calls.

No data on the voltage curves yet. So I can't make guesses to how it would compare against another alternator that hasn't been tested either.

I suspect this one will do far better than an overdriven OEM alt.
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Douglas went out of business a few months ago.
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I'll check and see if I have the original alternator still.

Might be another helpful item, but you can also get a 14V racing battery, although they aren't light. I wonder if you could convince one of these racing battery companies to produce something light and 14V. The advantage being even if the alternator drops out under WOT, the battery should still keep voltage in the 14V range. It works with the standard 14.4V alternator though and with the externally adjustable regulator, you could probably bump it up to 15 or so. This might also improve tuning anyway as you wouldn't see as dramatic of voltage changes under all conditions. Should even help with cold cranking.
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I am interested in this also, sending PM.
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Originally Posted by 03whitegsr
I'll check and see if I have the original alternator still.

Might be another helpful item, but you can also get a 14V racing battery, although they aren't light. I wonder if you could convince one of these racing battery companies to produce something light and 14V. The advantage being even if the alternator drops out under WOT, the battery should still keep voltage in the 14V range. It works with the standard 14.4V alternator though and with the externally adjustable regulator, you could probably bump it up to 15 or so. This might also improve tuning anyway as you wouldn't see as dramatic of voltage changes under all conditions. Should even help with cold cranking.
I'm all for a charging system upgrade including a mini battery that can handle winter. Pc680 is getting tired of 30 degree weather and I see -*f all winter
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Please pm me details. and pricing.

I have also been looking into upgraded alternators....so perfect timing.
Didn't know that Douglas went out of business.
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Originally Posted by 03whitegsr
I'll check and see if I have the original alternator still.

Might be another helpful item, but you can also get a 14V racing battery, although they aren't light. I wonder if you could convince one of these racing battery companies to produce something light and 14V. The advantage being even if the alternator drops out under WOT, the battery should still keep voltage in the 14V range. It works with the standard 14.4V alternator though and with the externally adjustable regulator, you could probably bump it up to 15 or so. This might also improve tuning anyway as you wouldn't see as dramatic of voltage changes under all conditions. Should even help with cold cranking.
Why not just use a large capacitor instead of a battery? It could be lighter than most batteries and depending on the draw of the WOT system, you could size it to maintain <10% voltage drop for up to 20 seconds.

As far as I can tell, the only purpose of the battery at that point would be to start the car. If you were really dedicated to tracking the car, you could just bring a battery with you to the track for the cold start.

edit: with this alternator and a voltage regulator on the alternator, I really can't see how a capacitor would be helpful besides "flattening" voltage levels. The alternator should be more than sufficient to provide capacity even at WOT. A large capacitor would be a bandaid for an existing system that is breaking up.

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Old Nov 9, 2012, 12:47 PM
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From what i read, 14v batteries need to be charged at 16.8v.
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I can get measurements of the pulley off of my 2005 evo if anyone needs it.
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Originally Posted by n2oiroc
the adjustable external regulator sounds cool. anyone know how high of voltage you can run on these cars and what the first failure point is for higher voltage?

The ecu going crazy throwing faults would be my guess. I would say at about 15v I cant imagine the electronic control systems would be too happy.
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Originally Posted by TommiM
The ecu going crazy throwing faults would be my guess. I would say at about 15v I cant imagine the electronic control systems would be too happy.
I have a proefi, its supposedly good for 24v.


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