1998 BMW E36 M3 Dakar Track Car
Feb 2, 2017, 10:06 AM
#31
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Feb 2, 2017, 10:13 AM
#32
The back end came loose while throttling out of the sweeper at Buttonwillow Raceway Park.
I held the counter steering input too long which then snapped the other direction when I regained traction.
I put two tires off on the passenger side entering the esses.
The car then rotated to the left slightly and went off track.
The section of the track there is hardpack dirt with rocks (marbles) and it's downhill with little runoff at that speed.
There is a 3' brick retaining wall at the bottom of the hill, which I hit almost straight on.
I held the counter steering input too long which then snapped the other direction when I regained traction.
I put two tires off on the passenger side entering the esses.
The car then rotated to the left slightly and went off track.
The section of the track there is hardpack dirt with rocks (marbles) and it's downhill with little runoff at that speed.
There is a 3' brick retaining wall at the bottom of the hill, which I hit almost straight on.
Feb 2, 2017, 10:21 AM
#33
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Oof. Sounds like it hurt. Especially the degloving injury.
Feb 2, 2017, 10:24 AM
#34
Yeah, passenger went to the hospital. Wasn't a good day all around. I no longer take passengers.
I'm okay with my own injury and the destruction of my cars, just not of others. I still feel like **** for hurting him in just a simple "joy ride"
Here's a different video but it shows the sweeper and how hit connects to the esses.
You might have to watch the first 15 seconds a few times to notice the wall on the left and the downhill section:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR4EiZU43qU
I'm okay with my own injury and the destruction of my cars, just not of others. I still feel like **** for hurting him in just a simple "joy ride"
Here's a different video but it shows the sweeper and how hit connects to the esses.
You might have to watch the first 15 seconds a few times to notice the wall on the left and the downhill section:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR4EiZU43qU
Feb 2, 2017, 10:52 AM
#35
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Yeah, the wall looks sturdy...lol
I definitely have reservation about taking passengers. Especially when they complain I'm clearly not driving as fast as I do when I'm solo. Not realizing we're lapping a stock (safety equipment) Evo, which, safety wise, might as well be a beer can on wheels.
It's probably pretty luck you had that off in a BMW. It would have been much worse in a CT9a. Granted, you prob wouldn't have gone off in an Evo
When you do you think your first event will be in the E36M?
I definitely have reservation about taking passengers. Especially when they complain I'm clearly not driving as fast as I do when I'm solo. Not realizing we're lapping a stock (safety equipment) Evo, which, safety wise, might as well be a beer can on wheels.
It's probably pretty luck you had that off in a BMW. It would have been much worse in a CT9a. Granted, you prob wouldn't have gone off in an Evo
When you do you think your first event will be in the E36M?
Feb 2, 2017, 11:04 AM
#36
3500lbs @ 26MPH = 2.46G
Lots of bruising of my sternum, tailbone and my elbow hit the doorpanel due to the airbag deploy. I was limping for a couple weeks after that.
I have a few offs in the evo, but nothing like that. Most of my offs in the evo were due to a bad line, not drift oversteer. I had a few of those in the evo, but that was because I didn't know to countersteer and none of my instructors ever said anything about it.
"Oh, you mean I should do countersteering input in AWD, too? Okay."
Agreed on the damage though, BMWs are tanks for sure.
I'm trying to get the car done for a shakedown track day on March 4th.
Lots of bruising of my sternum, tailbone and my elbow hit the doorpanel due to the airbag deploy. I was limping for a couple weeks after that.
I definitely have reservation about taking passengers. Especially when they complain I'm clearly not driving as fast as I do when I'm solo. Not realizing we're lapping a stock (safety equipment) Evo, which, safety wise, might as well be a beer can on wheels.
It's probably pretty luck you had that off in a BMW. It would have been much worse in a CT9a. Granted, you prob wouldn't have gone off in an Evo
It's probably pretty luck you had that off in a BMW. It would have been much worse in a CT9a. Granted, you prob wouldn't have gone off in an Evo
"Oh, you mean I should do countersteering input in AWD, too? Okay."
Agreed on the damage though, BMWs are tanks for sure.
I'm trying to get the car done for a shakedown track day on March 4th.
Feb 2, 2017, 11:07 AM
#37
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You should try to make Team Topak at Chuckwalla 4/1-4/2. I'll be there. Should be a good time. Revo's events are always pretty good.
Feb 2, 2017, 11:34 AM
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Ah, for some reason I thought you were in So Cal.
Buttonwillow is on my list. I might try to do an event there this year. Depends on what my budget lines up with. I want to go to Buttonwillow, or Willow Springs (Big track) this year. Haven't done big willow in the Evo yet.
Buttonwillow is on my list. I might try to do an event there this year. Depends on what my budget lines up with. I want to go to Buttonwillow, or Willow Springs (Big track) this year. Haven't done big willow in the Evo yet.
Feb 2, 2017, 12:24 PM
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Feb 2, 2017, 12:29 PM
#41
Ah, for some reason I thought you were in So Cal.
Buttonwillow is on my list. I might try to do an event there this year. Depends on what my budget lines up with. I want to go to Buttonwillow, or Willow Springs (Big track) this year. Haven't done big willow in the Evo yet.
Buttonwillow is on my list. I might try to do an event there this year. Depends on what my budget lines up with. I want to go to Buttonwillow, or Willow Springs (Big track) this year. Haven't done big willow in the Evo yet.
If I do the full GTA schedule, I'll have to do Big Willow. I'm nervous.
Mar 27, 2017, 02:50 PM
#42
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Noah, congrats on getting the car to track successfully.
One thing, whoever "welded" those reinforcement plates on should not be welding anything, on anyone's car. Those welds look terrible and like they lack just about any penetration. Please take the car to a professional and have those plates properly burned in.
One thing, whoever "welded" those reinforcement plates on should not be welding anything, on anyone's car. Those welds look terrible and like they lack just about any penetration. Please take the car to a professional and have those plates properly burned in.
Mar 27, 2017, 02:53 PM
#43
Noah, congrats on getting the car to track successfully.
One thing, whoever "welded" those reinforcement plates on should not be welding anything, on anyone's car. Those welds look terrible and like they lack just about any penetration. Please take the car to a professional and have those plates properly burned in.
One thing, whoever "welded" those reinforcement plates on should not be welding anything, on anyone's car. Those welds look terrible and like they lack just about any penetration. Please take the car to a professional and have those plates properly burned in.
His work in instagram isn't that bad, so I trusted him. I think the circuit in my garage was only 15A (his welder needs 40A) and the ground was having issues.
I sent those pictures to the company that sells the plates and they were like, "Oh, hell no."
Mar 27, 2017, 02:55 PM
#44
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Good to hear. I noticed someone in your thread on the BMW forum said they need to be welded 100%, but he didn't comment on the terrible welds themselves.
And yeah, I'm sure the part mfg would never approve of that install...lol
And yeah, I'm sure the part mfg would never approve of that install...lol
Mar 27, 2017, 03:00 PM
#45
Also, the guy doing the welding thought the plates were to keep the rear lower control arm from pushing up, not the pockets for the bolts from ripping out. We talked about it after.
Honestly, this was so I could save a few bucks. Next time I'm taking the car to a race shop and just eating the cost.