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Old Nov 1, 2004 | 12:04 PM
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Smog + Turbo?

OK, I live in San Diego, CA. If I put on the RRM Turbo kit, how do I go about passing smog in 4 years? Because therez no freakin' way I'm removing the turbo kit just to pass!!! I'm assuming this kit is NOT CARB certified?!
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Old Nov 1, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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Nope, you won't, as the turbo downpipe doesn't have a catalytic converter in it. I imagine you could pass if you had a cat welding into the downpipe (or midpipe?), though.

Or maybe you could have a shop put the cat in your midpipe, but put brackets on it instead of welding it, so you could run a test pipe.
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Old Nov 1, 2004 | 01:11 PM
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In stupid California, you would never pass smog even with a cat welded in, just becuase you wouldn't have an official CARB Exempt cert. on the kit. It wouldn't matter if the smog #'s came out way below passing (which is the whole point of the check is it not?) because the stupid CARB board didn't certify it, so it's no good. Biggest bunch of bureaucratic BS I've ever seen...
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Old Nov 1, 2004 | 01:12 PM
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...Did I mention that I HATE C.A.R.B.?
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Old Nov 1, 2004 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by turbonutter
In stupid California, you would never pass smog even with a cat welded in, just becuase you wouldn't have an official CARB Exempt cert. on the kit. It wouldn't matter if the smog #'s came out way below passing (which is the whole point of the check is it not?) because the stupid CARB board didn't certify it, so it's no good. Biggest bunch of bureaucratic BS I've ever seen...
OK, then, how do all those people in CA with aftermarket turbos get around smog when the time comes?
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Old Nov 1, 2004 | 04:25 PM
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I love living in Canada, so long as your exaust isn't dragging on the ground, no one cares. You could gut the cat on a brand new car and no one would notice or care. I see many cars burning crazy amounts of oil, no one cares. I guess that's because California has Canada's population in an area a 20th the size (or less.)
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Old Nov 1, 2004 | 04:42 PM
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OK, then, how do all those people in CA with aftermarket turbos get around smog when the time comes?
You find a shady tester who's willing to look the other way for a bit of extra $ when it comes time to do the visual inspection.
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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 06:20 PM
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I live in michigan. There is no inforcement at all. We can run around with streight pipes and no one would notice. I have removed the cats on allmost every car I have ever owned.. lol.
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 08:24 AM
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Like the US, it depends where you live in Canada as far as "Air Quality" tests are concerned. I live on Vancouver Island and we are test free so far. The main population of BC is in the lower mainland and has "Air Quality" testing.

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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 11:59 AM
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what happens when you dont pass anyways?
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 12:31 PM
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If your omisions are too high to meet the standards the car is off the road. I got a great buy on a second car for my wife last year as the owner was moving over to the mainland and had bought a new car. It wasn't worth their effort to try and sell it there as it may have failed the test and cost more than it was worth to get it up to snuff.

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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 12:52 PM
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doode, just find someone to pay off, its better to pay liek 300 bucks under the table to someone rather than wasting like 2 weeks takign the kit off n den putting it back on
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by EJM
Like the US, it depends where you live in Canada as far as "Air Quality" tests are concerned. I live on Vancouver Island and we are test free so far. The main population of BC is in the lower mainland and has "Air Quality" testing.

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That's true, I live in Saskatchewan. I bet the east has smog testing, as well as some big cities.
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 06:44 PM
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doode, just find someone to pay off, its better to pay liek 300 bucks under the table to someone rather than wasting like 2 weeks takign the kit off n den putting it back on
Problem is, it's getting harder to find guys who can be bought.
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 01:59 AM
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Maybe I'll just trade the car in to the dealer at smog time and get an EVO? When I traded in my Dodge Dakota, they didn't even pop the hood!!! I had a bored throttle body, non-CARB intake, non-CARB headers, no CAT, and a Jet chip. Oh yeah, even my check engine light was on!

I guess another option is when my four years is up, offer someone a deal on my turbo to swap it out for stock parts? I'll have 100,000 miles on it by then anyway and will be ready for a new ride!
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