ok, so now we know not only that the MAF can handle at least 10 psi(thanks thunder_rush, for all your help in this matter), it's been stated that you can ignore it altogether because it's not a fuel cut CEL. you guys will have to tell us when it begins to create a problem for you, if you ever get to that point.

thanks for the info

 

exactly why try to force something to use the maf signal when it doesnt need it. i would only use it to clamp the maf voltage so it doesnt throw an CEL, which will just be a dummy code. you know it's a dummy code because your car wont go in limp mode. one way to check this is rev your car in neutral and see if it revs past 4300 rpm. if it feels like a rev limiter, you're in limp mode (bad because youre running off a closed loop map like you do in WOT -- bad gas mileage, and car doesnt rev past 4300rpm).


ive never used the mapecu2. ill be honest, i experimented with the SAFC2, e-manage on my car and eventually ended up using an AEM EMS, because none of the piggybacks worked right. the FIC actually works decent, but still doesnt give you control over things like cold start maps, accel/decel fuel. the timing is also retarded based on the stock ign table (i hate that.) but it's a great system for the $ you spend on it.

 

the map ecu2 has closed loop tuning capabilities, that was a big plus. the only issue with it is the fact that it needs to either intercept or eliminate the MAF, and you saw the issue with that.

in neutral the rev limiter is 5500 on our ECU, IIRC anyway. any MAF CEL I have had has been caused by a piggyback though so I am not sure if it's a dummy CEL or not. I know the car won't run at all without the MAF hooked up

hopefully I will get this MAF circuit figured out so we can have MAF elimination; if it works for the mapecu2 it will work for the FIC unit as well. It's not the units, it's the MAF circuit. I know this to be fact.

are the crank and cam signals the same on the 4g69 eclipse engine as the ones I have posted above, and will the FIC advance and retard timing on the car or just retard?

I don't mind tuning off the stock timing maps, but I'm not trying to put down hundreds more horsepower either EMS really hasn't been in the plans at all for me, I've always intended on passing obdii inspection.

 

The FIC retards timing only. And Zee still passes the emissions. You just have to know the right place to go to.

 

that's not passing obdii emissions, that's getting a sticker big difference, especially around here.

 

ha, any u[dates? this kit looks really well put together. Dyno sheets? Vids? Holla.

 

Buy a real Eclipse.

 

Yea, real funny. Actually 2G was my favorite car but too old. Anyway, I'll have a video soon at least. It's real cold these days to do anything.

 

Here's a video we did on the weekend for those interested.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKN2-JddsaE

 

nice vid man, congrats!


put it on the dyno!

 

I am further impressed. I was noticing the steady AFR's long before you said it in the video excellent video too.

 

wow the fmic looks nice

 

Thanks guys. We'll do more on a nice day and a dyno when it warms up a bit.

 

does look nice

 

^+1 very nice. I liked the pics of the setup, very clean.