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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by hackish
I spoke with Ross a few months ago. He seems quite knowledgeable which is rare in this industry. If he managed to find a local buyer then I offered to develop a tune for him. Supercharger or turbocharger from my point of view the reliability will come from proper tuning.

-Michael
Yes sir, i would agree to a certain point, and good parts will make sure that the system in question will run good and not fail but also properly taking care of the system from the user end is also a key factor. With there system, i just don't see where after you get all you can out of it, that you can push it past that point. I am not saying RIPP makes bad stuff ect, i am just saying that the system seems to restrictive. I don't see how you can add a larger blower or pulley as stated above when it looks to me like there is not enough clearance ect. I also don't think on smaller engines that a SC is the way to go, as you use power to make it, there is to much drag with all the hardware and the blower. Most people want to free up the friction and get as much out of there motor as possible, sooo why spend money on internals ect to get them balanced ect just to put a blower on a car that is going to drain the engine of power to make power. This is my thoughts on the subject and opinion.

One other thing I forgot to mention when looking at the pic and list of parts they give you, this kit is only set up for around 6 PSI i assume since there is no IC for the kit listed. Looks to me like its straight air in with no cooling. People earlier states it was less then the RRM turbo setup, well with RRM's setup your getting around 10 PSI with lots of room to go with internals later on. Yes this kit is cheaper for the quick person to buy, but you wont be getting much over 6 PSI without an IC of some sort. A nice one will run you a few bills sooo the money you saved just got spent. Just some other stuff to think about. Read what comes with the kit, as I don't see an IC listed at all. Just another observation of mine.

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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 05:29 AM
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After reading all the thread, I've come to the conclusion that the turbo vs supercharger war will always resurrect, people if this is a SUPERCHARGER thread don't go banging at the guy that wants it, we all know superchargers and turbo's have pros and cons, it is just a matter of personal preference and performance goal. Leaving that aside I am assuming the owner of this thread WANTS to get a supercharger kit, my suggestion will be to talk to the guys at RIPP and get a tuner's kit if they Do sell it (it should come with the supercharger only and the installing parts, no fuel or ECU management) , after that get a good mechanic to install it and a tuner to tune it, for engine management I would wait for the hackish reflash since it is trully the only one that can eliminate all the piggyback problems associated with the ECU trowing code after a while and will be more reliable for the daily driver.
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by migueralliart
After reading all the thread, I've come to the conclusion that the turbo vs supercharger war will always resurrect, people if this is a SUPERCHARGER thread don't go banging at the guy that wants it, we all know superchargers and turbo's have pros and cons, it is just a matter of personal preference and performance goal. Leaving that aside I am assuming the owner of this thread WANTS to get a supercharger kit, my suggestion will be to talk to the guys at RIPP and get a tuner's kit if they Do sell it (it should come with the supercharger only and the installing parts, no fuel or ECU management) , after that get a good mechanic to install it and a tuner to tune it, for engine management I would wait for the hackish reflash since it is trully the only one that can eliminate all the piggyback problems associated with the ECU trowing code after a while and will be more reliable for the daily driver.
Sir, I am just pointing out what I see and know about the two, The owner of this thread is thinking about a super charger, I am not turning this into a war or anything of the sort. I am just stating fact and pointing out what i see. Like i have said before, in now way am i talking down on a super charger, and these are my opinions, which I do believe he is asking for.
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by samterry1234
I'm thinking about getting the RIPP supercharger kit, but haven't found anyone mention anything about it yet.

Anyone who has installed the RIPP supercharger system, or knows a lot about it, please reply and let me know what you think, and if a turbo system like from RRM would be better.

thanks,
Sam
Everything I have stated is to his first post of this thread, and in return to others statements, soooo no I am not starting a war, I am stating an opinion which this person has asked for.

Sir in response to this I would say go with what you think is best and more suited to your needs. Everything I have pointed out you should look at, and yes call RIPP and talk to them about there kit. MY OPINION is to go with a turbo, but like i said depends on what your wanting it for. I am sorry if you have been reading and think this is a war, I have and had no intentions of it as Super Chargers are good kits, just that in my OPINION a small motor would do better with a turbo set up then a super charger. Like stated two times this is MY OPINION and does not reflect the opinions of anyone else on this forum.
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 01:38 PM
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War? lol never but we were just expressing feelings. And both sides are said. However you look at it all its gonna come down to the functionality of the car for daily use or maby every now and then. cause there is almost no need to turbo it if you are going to keep it in low numbers and not use it to its fullest.
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 05:52 AM
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after seeing the layout of the kit and knowing that there is no good management for it yet, I would rather spend money into making a custom kit then buying the RIPP one. If you do a little bit of research I'm sure you can find a cheaper way that would get you to the same point...and will probably enable you to learn a bit more.
I've done some research into putting a SC on an engine in the past (Ford Escort 2.0L) and so far a good option I saw was to get a SC that runs it's own oil to keep it simpler and seperated from the engine. (Toyota 4AGE SC is a good option here). As for the mounting, best option would be to get rid of AC and use the mounting points of it to create new brackets to hold your SC. At this point I would try to hookup with someone knowledgable like hackis to work on computer management.

Just a side note to say that the toyota 4AGE SC is the best option and most affordable not only because of it own oil pan design but also because it comes with the feature of turning the SC off or on for better fuel consumption. Also getting a rebuild kit or oversized pulley for it won't be an issue if you want to go higher in power. The downside is that I heard that with engines above 2L it would get worned out faster than on a 1.6,1.8 engine...at this point you rebuild it or you buy another one since all the brackets are there and the management is also.
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 09:02 AM
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Hackish, you writing all this down? he he
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