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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 12:22 AM
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ok, very busy this past weekend but I have four days off over thanksgiving adn the GF is going out of town. Looks like I will be working on the car
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 09:56 PM
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done. in the ralliart diy forum. Hope you like, didn't get much in the way of pics, I don't know how to use my brothers camera and most of them were blurred. I think he was taking time lapse shots or something before. all well, I did the text anyway.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 05:56 PM
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plan to try this one soon. simple, and sounds effective, however, with clutch wear, it will have to be adjusted.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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That is true, but if your clutch wears out in five years how often do you think you would need to adjust it. I have had mine in for about 15000 miles and it is still as close to the clutch block as it was when I put it in, at least as far as my foot can tell

Has anyone else tried this and how do you like it if you have?
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 10:19 PM
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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bumping an old one to add this:

Originally Posted by Tw3NTy0n3
Re: Clutch Block Question

Hi,

I don't mean to bug you but I've searched and haven't found much on the DIY clutch block you wrote up.

I found the thread discussing it's use, the DIY thread, and the one where you asked if anyone was even using it.

I'm just wondering if you still use it yourself and have you found any downsides to it? It sounds like a great idea and the logic behind it fits but I'm a little hesistant because I didn't see much feedback on the forums.

I showed my brother the thread and he is fabricating something for me that will look nice and fit tight but I just wanted to see if there are any updates about this DIY from the original poster.

Thanks in advance!

It's an overlooked mod. Most people on here are modifying the car to suit their desires; modifying the car (read bolt ons) to have a faster car, not a better car. you can make the car better AND faster by changing the way things operate, such as the clutch slave mod delete or this clutch block. there are a few other things that will get you better on the track, such as disabling the ABS, that no one ever does or talks about either. there are more people interested in fast cars than there are worried about who's BETTER. you can't be faster if you can't shift, it's all about the motion in the ocean ya know?

you can buy a short shift kit, but I don't have one. Why? because the stock shifter (evo 8 shifter comes with the car) is short enough. your foot will never move faster than your hand can on the shifter, no matter what. I put in the block to let my foot try and catch up to my hand a little. I also installed the other shifter mods and did the slave modulator delete. what I have now is a very fast, very smooth shift. the car likes it, and I couldn't be happier.

there is little to no need for a short shifter in this car if you want to drive it properly. if you want to drag the car, and don't mind destroying your tranny, you can do the clutch block and short shift kit not to say you will destroy the tranny, but you won't gain any speed shifting with one as opposed to just adding the clutch block if you aren't forcing the shifter

I will always run with a clutch block. when installed properly it does nothing more than take up dead space under your pedal that you would normally have to push through to shift. This is the second vehicle I have had with a clutch block. It's been on the car for a long time, I think it was the first performance change I made actually. My clutch is showing little wear at 53000 miles, probably less than that of some of the other drivers on here because my modifications and driving style are for the car not the passengers
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 12:59 PM
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i can attest for a clutch block, it took a little while to get used to it but once i did my shifts were much faster.

i still think one could benefit from a short shifter kit though, i find my hand's actually lagging behind my foot now a slight tad, compared to before without the block.
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 02:28 PM
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yeah, but can the drivetrain keep up with the clutch pedal? I bet your input shaft is still spinning too fast sometimes when you try and put it in gear. ever have any issues, resistance, grinding, clunking, when shifting real fast? do you have shifter bushings, or the clutch slave mod delete?<that ones free a short shifter won't speed up your shifts, only change the amount of shifting you have to do. you still have to wait for physics to do it's job
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 07:50 PM
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Clutch block can also save your tranny... it's harder to drop the clutch

short THROW shifter is really good with it !
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Joyrider
Clutch block can also save your tranny... it's harder to drop the clutch

short THROW shifter is really good with it !
I disagree, I think it's easier to drop the clutch. when it starts at the floor all you have to do is move your foot too much and it's completely engaged. EVERYONE stalls my car when they first try and drive it

short shifter is gonna be a preference, since the science backs up my statements. you can't outshift the tranny without additional wear and tear.
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 08:53 AM
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yeah, but can the drivetrain keep up with the clutch pedal? I bet your input shaft is still spinning too fast sometimes when you try and put it in gear. ever have any issues, resistance, grinding, clunking, when shifting real fast? do you have shifter bushings, or the clutch slave mod delete?<that ones free a short shifter won't speed up your shifts, only change the amount of shifting you have to do. you still have to wait for physics to do it's job
i do sometimes get locked out completely, if i apply the same force as if i didn't have the block on. i remember taking it out for the first time after installing the block, i engaged the clutch so much quicker than before, i grinded 3rd . my hand was much slower. but now, it's just so much more comfortable once you get it in sync. i do have shifter bushings, and i'll try the clutch slave mod delete soon.

you're right about the short shifter, it's just a personal preference, i'd feel more comfortable with a shorter throw.
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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you haven't done the clutch slave mod delete and you are complaining about your shifter? I even went out today and tried to shift faster than the car, you can feel the pain man more power to you if you don't mind though. it's only a car and it can be repaired. my buddy Ryan rebuilt his tranny after 80k in his Honda, and is back to his stock clutch for the time being after destroying his ACT clutch. you live and learn though
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Old Oct 7, 2007 | 06:30 PM
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Im interested in a DIY thread. i am thinking of just buying a BMW one and adjusting it to my evo ^.^ sound good?
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Old Oct 7, 2007 | 11:29 PM
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wait how can you damage ur tranny with a ss??? and the delete does what now??
clutch block prob nxt mod
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 12:37 AM
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What is being said is that if you outshift your tranny, which is to say you shift gears faster then the transmission changes gears you are creating some wear and tear, for instance damaging syncros and the clutch. As for the delete that they are talking about, this is the rrm clutchline which deletes the clutch slave modulator which causes the engagement of your clutch to be less responsive and more unpredictable. However, it is there as a safety measure to prevent you from harming the clutch.

The clutchline is a fairly cheap mod and really easy to install. I would highly suggest it as it makes your clutch much more responsive and predictable. Also if you plan on doing the lower clutchline you can also do the upper clutchline which is sold by Works, however, this one is a pain to install because of the limited space to work with. If you do choose to do the upper line I would suggest putting a small amount of teflon tape on the threads of the banjo bolt to help hold the washer on. If you decide to do this mod you will understand what I mean when you go to do it.
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