Errrh....dont mind me asking but where is the damper? To my understand, there should be a piston like damper pretty much like suspension dampers which is suppose to absorb and cushion the force of engine movement.....if its just a straight bar, what is absorbing the force?

At the end of the day, some thing got to give way....in the case of the engine damper, its the piston like damper that gives....but in a straight rod case,.....what is?

No disrespect of any nature but this is the first time that I see torque dampers been done this way.....

 

is the big red thing in the left side of the picture comming out of the strut bar...

we have told everyone many times is not a fashion statement....

 

That wasn't his point...

The ones that I had seen before had a small shock absorber piston thingy instead of a bar.

 

Hi PR_Mivec

I know its the big red thingy and I have no intention of any disrespect whatsoever. I am just voicing my concerns. The engine rotational torque during hard accelaration is pretty high and after reforming the engine, be it NA, FI, or Injection increases the rotational torque value and its a force not to be treated lightly.

The first move is actually to restict this movement by installing stiffer engine mountings, and to improve it further, its the torque damper. The objective is to restrict and/or reduce (its sudden jerk causing irregular gearshifting).... not isolate rotational torque.

From what I know, torque damper have a piston like thingy (like in the pictures that tuffguy has provided) that attaches from the chassis to the engine mount. The torque damper while restricts, still provides the 'weak link in the chain'. If anything is to give way, its the torque damper piston that does.....With a straight bar, where would this 'weak link' be....it will be transferred to the nearest and/or weakest part of the mounts or worse still the engine block or chassis.....?

Perhaps I could be wrong as I can see rubber bushings on the bar?....Perhaps those bushings are the 'piston'.

 

i do get your point and yes it does have 4 rubber bushings.....

 

this thing looks like they spray painted-it. it took almost a month for me to receive it, and when i try to put it on the thing did not fit ! i had to drill two holes bigger ,and i had to trim the plate so i can bolt it up to the motor mount. i am not happy, i can't really feel the performance. i may have to buy RRM motor mounts.

 

Pikachu, If you go with stiff motor mounts you'll eliminate most of your engine movement. Anything else will just be gravy or eye candy untill you start pushing hp#'s like PR does. If you don't plan on putting 300whp down (which puts it's own unique strain on the chassis) don't worry about motor restriction past your allready planned motor mount upgrade. These engine dampers are a parellel path to restrict movement, not really an "additional" stiffness adder to motor mounts. Oh and yes those rubber bushings act as vibration isolaters and allow a minor amount of movement. Just install the front and rear motor mounts and then see if you need any more damping okay?

 

so far i know the diference when the damper is on and off (i take it off when not racing)
i have that and polyurethane mounts... btw would you guys think as suicidal making the mounts in metal... let me put it this way.. taking off the rubber and put in molten copper or aluminum to fill the mounts...?



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I think it really does depend greatly on the amount of H.P and torque a car is making the more you have the more movement you will generate from the engine.... but you really don't want to be removing all engine movement as it will make slow driving or cruising very uncomfortable as the vibrations travel through the car.... I think the aim that should be achieved is to just to slow that engine movement down rather than eliminate it altogether because once you have eliminated it you then have other problems that occur like metal fatigue in certain parts of the engine.... I had a CAI that was very securely mounted butit was so secure and with no movement that one day after doing a very small amount of racing I had sheared the Throttle body apart.... so it was with that lesson I learnt that some engine movement is good

The North Star mount looks actually quiet functaional and looks like it would do the job it is just not as refined as you would like it to be... personally myself I would like to see one that it is mounted were the engine removal bolts are ( 1 is placed at the front of engine just above and to the left of headers) mainly because of were the engine mounts are in relation to it

 

Errrhhh....I am just voicing a concern and nothing more than that. I always feel that it is prudent for the car owner to question the shop selling the products. By this does not mean the the product in this thread is bad, but to understand the principle behind the design as oppose the standard design....that is all ....nothing more.....

 

here is my story..
for no particular reason (since i cant post street things) my car broke 2 of the 4 mounts, namely the rear one and the tranny mount...
lol.. got hop?

 

I used to get wheel hop engine tramp call it what ever you like it is not a lot of fun I think when it starts getting to the point were you are going thru that many engine mounts and engine dampeners you are really having to look at other areas to fix the problem with something more substantual eg; invest in much stickier treads or a LSD

 

took the engine dampener out to see what it would do. i had more wheel spin. i put it back and now it feel alittle better.

 

its been a month since i've orderd the Engine Damper Kit from NORTH STAR CREATIONS and its been since the 28th of april and now its the 25th of may. how long does it really take to mail a small peice like that to canada. i ordered the RRM intake and Underdrive pully on april 30th and i already got it since the 10th of may so my question is how long does it really take to ship from the State Side to Ontario especially when they have a statement like this:

"Shipping

Due to the high amount of orders, we have changed our shipping policy. Orders are expected to be completed within 2-3 weeks or earlier. Once orders are complete, shipping will take approximately 5-7 business days, depending on where it is shipping to. Item availability may vary. All items are made to order, please be patience."

I am patient but after the reviews that i've read who would want to wait this long
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>>>i am pretty patient with the delivery time but the fact that they state a 3wk waiting period minimum before shipment i thought that i would have it by now the anticipation is killing me and with the reviews i thought that it would be here by now ...... oh and i did e-mail them about the wait time and when i could be expecting the product but i havent recieved a reply as yet and that was over a week and a half ago. but with RRM when i gave them an expired visa number they called me right back two days later i thought that it would delay shipment but i got it within 2 and a half weeks later i thought that was exceptional with order placement response but i dont know ill try to e-mail and post on their web page and hopefully ill get an approximate shipping date since it seems to me that they didn't ship the product yet....but as a retailer i think that they should inform me of any delays and if the reviews are so good they shouldn't wait for an order to manufacture the damn thing.

 

Just buy some filled motor mounts and be done with it people. The 2 companies making engine dampers dont' seem to care how long it takes..... Use whoever you want or do it yourself but either way your problems will be solved.