*reminds everyone that some people here are buying for looks too!

To be honest, reason I'm buying is coz of my engine swap - I need a header/downpipe and id rather not have a rusty boring stock one.

 

have you seen the inside of a stock RA header?! it looks okay on the outside but inside it is dual walled and you can barely get two fingers in there. Unless you have made your own long header downpipe combo and dyno tested it versus stock, that's a pretty audacious claim. please STFU

 

has anyone ever seen the slips or anyting from rpws header? the guy who tells us the info, how fast it is without punching it. lossing more than 2 tenths off quarter. anyone seen the slips or the car itself? if it really does give that much power than damn thats great but if not than just stick with the downpipe and catback.

 

hey if you don't like the truth that's fine, everyone on here is entitled to they'er opinion, i don't have to "claim" anything, it's plain science, you will not see any gains on N/A engine, regardless if you have a Piggy, Cold air or down pipe. Yes the Exhaust side will be less restrictive wich gives the engine better flow, but it's still not enough to make a difference. So think what you want, but at least think before you open your mouth "twisty1251". I'm simply putting the facts out there, if you no nothing about how engines work then i suggest you STFU!

 

well lets see the proof you say you have because if true ill keep my money and rrm needs to put up some numbers on the header if they want my money

 

Exactly, like i said before, you will see only slight if any increses, so we'll all have to wait and see what the outcome is.

 

haha
you're 'science' is more a a skewed opinion. i a header on most cars is one of more significant bolt on upgrades as far as performance. The Ralliarts 4g69 do exceptionally well in NA form with simple bolt ons so there is no reason why a properly made header wouldn't produce substantial gains. and throwing out random hp figures means nothing, acceleration is all about the power curve, peak power doesn't mean everything.

maybe you don't have the funds for a header so you don't want anyone else to get one, no?

 

PR_Mivecs experience thus far with his header is proving modern racers point at the moment, however, with some tuning and mods to compliment the header youd likely get a few horses out of it. I cannot imagine that the differences between RRM's and RPW's header would be more than a few ponies, but I could easily be wrong there. I think some of the best reasons to consider picking up the header would be (as others have mentioned) the looks, and possibly the sound.

 

Oh please, the last thing i have to worry about is getting a header, i choose not to buy one,money is not an issue here, i plan on going turbo very soon, so i have no need for a header of that sort, and even if i was going to stay N/A i wouldn't buy one, just because on a 4cyl engine there will never be any substantial improvments to convince me to buy one, i could see a very high compression engine with more displacement ei: a 350 Chevy small block getting bigger numbers from good set of headers, but not on a N/A 4cyl engine with only 9:5:1 compression. To get big power you need to go turbo, plain and simple, no header will promiss you that.

 

sorry didn't mean to make you cry...

 

ok now your really boring me with stupid comments, go find someone who really cares

 

latest in the USEFUL thread about the accolade header is showing a 5-7hp gain, he had a loss in hp and tq when he tried playing with the ECU.

hope that helps your little debate.

 

I dont think RRM would be releasing a header if it was only gonna give 5-7hp, since they already have the dp. Then again I may be wrong. So far i havent been disapointed from RRM. Maybe they know things others dont. Time will tell.

 

the guys at RRM have made some really nice and usefull products, but i think the Downpipe and Piggy should really do the job, a header is good for a car that doesn't come with one from the factory, and the Ralliart does.

 

Yea, thats what i orginally thought.