I know the service manager ,so I don't think it will be a problem getting the total cost parts and labor even so I don't have to pay .

 

I spoke today with the dealer and they said it may be ready for tomorrow , I hope , I got some one that want to see the car, I think that it may be sold .

 

so why did you end up selling your ra if you dont mind me asking?

 

Lets hope so.

He has way too many cars lol.

 

I got the car back, it rum better then went new.
The car is not sold so here we go again.

 

sounds like your syncros in first and second were shot. BTW your syncronizers in first and second gear will probably wear faster than the other gears because there is a larger difference between first and second in RPM's. In a car like this with a incredibly short first gear, you gotta be careful going from first to second because when u stick the clutch in and put it into nuetral, the input side of the transmission is going about as fast is it will ever get, so when you try to stick it into second gear the sycnronizers have to slow that down so that the dog teeth will engage the gear. Since the difference is so huge, its possible that if you do it too fast that it will grind. You may react by letting the clutch out and then you will really be grinding it. Thats common in vehicles with short gears. Try to give the transmission more time when the RPM change is larger. Shift slow between 1-2 and shift faster as you go to higher gears.

 

Wrong. If you have long or tall gears the drop inbetween shifts is much more. With a shorter gears the RPM's stay higher. The EVO is designed the same way. To have short gears gets you going faster by putting more stress on the tranmission to keep the engine in the powerband.

 

Okay so you are saying syncronizers on higher up gears wear down faster?

you pull away in your ralliart in first gear and at 4000 RPM you decide to shift. You engage the clutch and immediately pull back into second gear. the input shaft that is comming from the clutch is moving at the same speed that it ALWAYS moves at at 4000RPM. Once you hit second gear the sycronizers have to slow down that shaft to like 2000RPM or whatever in order to syncronize and allow the gear to engage. The input shaft has to change speed far less in higher gears, thats all i'm saying.

So if you take off at ridiculous speed and burn rubber to 6500 RPM and then shift to second gear, the input shaft is spinning as fast as the thing ever will get and your jamming that shaft that is spinning at high speed into a gear that is moving at a different speed and if the inertia is great enough the syncronizers will have more trouble slowing down the super fast spinning shaft.

I mean think about it, between first and second gear the RPM change is great and so is the input shaft. Between 4th and 5th its a much smaller change of speed of the input shaft and the engaged gear for the syncronizers.

engine----clutch-----input-----gears----output

The input generally moves the same speed as the engine when the clutch is connected. If you are at 4k rpm in first gear and shift to second its going to go down to like 2k, if you are in 4th gear at 4k rpm and you shift its going to go to like 3400. The syncronizers have to change the speed of that part of the tranny in order to engage gears at lower gears than higher gears. That explains why when you shift too quick from first to second when your accellerating like crazy, why you may grind. Trucks have extremely high gear ratios like this and is probably part of the reason why they dont' have syncronizers, because the high inertia of the input drive is not an easy thing to syncronize.

 

wooow bro, that makes a lot of sense lundefined .i have like 38,000 miles on mine and im really aware of these problems with the tranny cause like you see ,my warranty expired , so if you have or know how much it going to coast me if that happens to me (or to anybody)please let me know,cause i want to be ready to hung myself . naaaaa but seriously let me know, thanks and im glad to be back in the forum wuuujuuuuu

 

Dam pr doesn't get the same 5yr/60k warranty we get here in the states.

 

wow you got me there hehe, im going to verify that, cause ,i think that ,when i brought the car in nov 03 they didnt have that 5/60 warranty ,just the conventional 3/38 and now the new 10/100,000 , so im going to check the warranty book ,(which i dont know were i put it jejeje )and i let you know

 

I still disagree but I don't have the time at the moment to give a detailed response.

 

I think we just misunderstand eachoher joe. its not that we actually disagree, its that i'm having trouble communicating what i'm saying.

all i'm saying is that when you shift from first to second gear the amount of RPM's the engine slows down is greater than between 2nd and 3rd. I drive a stickshift and know that this is true. between 4th and 5th gear it only drops like 500 rpm. That is essentially what i'm saying, not having to do with anything else.

 

We had a few people ask about the Lancer transmissions and I recently added them to the site.

http://www.teamrip.com/Evolution.html

 

all i know is the ra tranny is a pile of **** and the techs at my local dealer are incompetant to say the least. took me til the 5 trans to be able to go more than 7000 miles til a service