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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 10:49 PM
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I work early tomorrow morning, my next days off are Mon, Tues, Wed. My dads friend who is a mechanic is going to help me out I'm still learning about how to install parts, I did the intake on my own fine but this seems like a bigger job.
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 11:15 PM
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actually it's a little less involved. the hardest part will be the o2 sensors.
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 11:16 PM
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I hope nobody jumps my *** for saying it's less involved, I just think it's a bit simpler, not necessarily less work.
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 05:59 AM
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I hope nobody jumps your a$$ period.

Personally installing this header should be a breeze. Nothing about this install is all that difficult. The worst part being rusty bolts but some WD-40 and a MAPP Gas hand torch will get you where you need to be.
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 06:32 AM
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Nice, still cant wait to get mine. Like Dan said there isnt really much to it. But like PRmivec said, you MAY have to remove the fan to make the new header fit, which shouldnt be very hard.
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 07:12 AM
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Hey Rock, is there any reason why you went with a straight through down pipe instead of making a flange on it so that you could switch between having a high flow cat and a test pipe. It just makes it nice for the guys who want to stay legal on the street but would like to take the cat out for track days. With this set up you'd be stuck with one or the other.
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 07:25 AM
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time and money maybe. Everyone wanted this thing ASAP. Just a guess. but i think im gonna just have flanges welded on. Oh another idea which may or may not be the reason but, 2 less gaskets to worry about??
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 07:42 AM
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I hope everyone that does not use their RA for track only use gets a cat converter. A high flow cat doesn't rob much power, and it's safe for the environment. Your car will sound better, won't smell, and you won't be one of those people who thinks driving a race setup on the street is ok. It't not ok, it's illegal. Even if your state doesn't require emissions testing it still is illegal. Not to mention poor judgement. If you want to run at the track I will get you some pipe you can weld flanges to and you can weld flanges to the cat. or ask RRM about thier test pipe option, I thought there was going to be one.

Sorry for the rant, I like to breath clean air. We already have enough pollution.
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 07:50 AM
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^ clean air is pretty good. RRM does have a test pipe (ROAD/RACE Ralliart 2.4 liter CAT ELIMINATOR KIT. For RAs with bolt in cat.) It looks like it would fit, says its for 05-06 tho..Rock??
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 07:57 AM
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Actually your rant sucks.

The Federal Government, State and local governments are exempt to emission laws. Therefore they are polluting a million times if not more than everyone that runs without a Catalytic converter. I will run Catless because if the government can than why can't I?

The Insight/Prius owner is going to make such a little impact to clean air its not even worth it. Gas mileage is a whole different thing. It would cost all of the governments way to damn much money and would be silly for them to enforce the law.


It is this same reason why a person in Federal Government will never care about Social Security. They have their own damn retirement program. They will never get this BS the rest of America gets. Ok enough on my rant, but is the truth.
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 08:11 AM
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Actually your rant sucks.

The Federal Government, State and local governments are exempt to emission laws. Therefore they are polluting a million times if not more than everyone that runs without a Catalytic converter. I will run Catless because if the government can than why can't I?

The Insight/Prius owner is going to make such a little impact to clean air its not even worth it. Gas mileage is a whole different thing. It would cost all of the governments way to damn much money and would be silly for them to enforce the law.


It is this same reason why a person in Federal Government will never care about Social Security. They have their own damn retirement program. They will never get this BS the rest of America gets. Ok enough on my rant, but is the truth.
This is exactly how the majority of people think. I'm personally with DangerousDan on this one though. Why would you want to add to the governments polluting when they are obviously doing plenty of it on their own? I just don't understand the logic of that thinking. I agree that one cat on one car isn't going to make a huge difference in air pollution, but thousands of cars running without a cat does.

That's just how I look at it though because I personally enjoy spending time outdoors doing some fishing or bike riding or whatever. Too much pollution will limit the area in which people can do that though. So, why not try to prevent what you can instead of adding what you can?
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 08:35 AM
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the 05-06 have a bolt on cat, 04s were weld-ons.


Originally Posted by rollinonez
^ clean air is pretty good. RRM does have a test pipe (ROAD/RACE Ralliart 2.4 liter CAT ELIMINATOR KIT. For RAs with bolt in cat.) It looks like it would fit, says its for 05-06 tho..Rock??
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 08:41 AM
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what i meant is for the new header dp combo. im assuming as long as the highflow and the straight pipe are the same size, u should be able to weld a flange on the dp and 2 flanges on the highflow. and switch between their highflow and test pipe. right??

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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 09:09 AM
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ohh skrew it, its gonna end up being alot of work. i think im just gonna weld in a highflow. I dont race at the track and im gonna need to pass emmisions.
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe's_EVO8
Actually your rant sucks.

The Federal Government, State and local governments are exempt to emission laws. Therefore they are polluting a million times if not more than everyone that runs without a Catalytic converter. I will run Catless because if the government can than why can't I?

The Insight/Prius owner is going to make such a little impact to clean air its not even worth it. Gas mileage is a whole different thing. It would cost all of the governments way to damn much money and would be silly for them to enforce the law.


It is this same reason why a person in Federal Government will never care about Social Security. They have their own damn retirement program. They will never get this BS the rest of America gets. Ok enough on my rant, but is the truth.
Really good point, however saying the government does it why can't I? To me, thats a cop-out. Anyone could use the "hey X is doing it why cant I?" - for many different reasons. Bottom line to me is its a matter of culpability and responsibility. It's doing what you simply can do to help, rather than seeing what you can get away with. I'm not particularly fond of a lot of the choices our government makes. Being like them wouldn't make me feel any better about what they are doing. I do want to stress however that it is completely your decision, and I am in no way trying to scold you or tell you what you're doing is wrong. Just offering a different perspective, and my reasons for not going catless. It doesn't rob your car of too much less power for a high flow from what I understand, and it is legal.

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