'ey, I gots some questions for yoose guys:

1a) Does anyone know whether or not the 4G69 will take the Evo's 4G63 DOHC heads? Also, I've seen someone replace the Evo 4G63 engine with a 4G64 block (which has slightly bigger bores). I noticed, though, that he had a DOHC system installed. If I recall correctly, the 4G64 was SOHC from the factory. Since I'm no tuner with little to no experience in engine modifications, is it possible to transplant DOHC systems to what was once originally SOHC systems?

1b) Since it seems likely that it is a possibility, what sort of engine swap or cam-system-swap would be the best idea in terms of scalability for the Ralliart? I know the Ralliart can take an Evo block, but I'm simply not interested in doing that. Also, what other quandries of the engine bay would we be stepping into by performing a cam-system-swap (i.e., what else would have to be changed to accomidate the engine changes? I'm aware of things like suspension and transmission needing to be upgraded accordingly)?

2) The ever undefined AWD question. Can an Evo's AWD system be feasibly transplanted to a Ralliart? Or are the body types too different (for those of you who take the stand that the Lancer and the Evo are two different vehicles altogether)?

That's it for now. AND DO NOT TALK TO ME ABOUT HOW EXPENSIVE THIS CRAP IS TO DO (if it's possible). I DON'T WANT TO HEAR A SINGLE "LOL U SHOULDA GOT AN EVO (or some other car)". Seriously, these are simply questions of curiousity. Please indulge them.

 

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1. Unknown at this point, but believed to be no. Nobody has tried, but generally believed that the coolant/oil channels won't line up.

2. Almonst anything is possible if you throw enough money at it. I'm quite sure it can be done, but the expense would be so great, even if you bought a wrecked Evo for parts and had a very talented fabricator on hand, that it wouldn't be worth it.

 

i can take 2....

the main thing you will need to change if the gast tank from the evo to the ra.. the rest is only a matter of making the holes, since they are "marked" but not made

 

AWD could fit to the ralliart if you get the Evo's fuel tank - which is split in two. It also has two level sensors one each side. Youd need the evo engine and transmission to. But the holes are all there for mounting the AWD stuff, as I checked during my engine swap. The lancer also comes stock with 4G63 and 4G15 MIVEC AWD in Japan and some parts of Europe.

 

^^needing to change the tranny and engine as well, is that due to a space issue like the gas tank?

 

Well, you'll have a hard time mating the 4G69 to an Evo tranny. I couldnt even mate the 4G69 to another F5m42 because of a subtle difference between the non-ralliart lancer F5M42 and the ralliart one. All the lancer AWD's are autos.

 

so an auto RA would have a better chance of doing this swap??
or still need a different auto

 

Sorry by tranny I meant the actually transmission. The way it worked with my engine swap, was we got the new engine, and the clutch housing that bolted to the 4G69, and bolted perfect to my stock 4G18 F5M42 trannsmission housing.

Problem was, the gear rails inside the tranny were mounted every so slightly differently, which meant the gear rails wouldnt connect to the back of the clutch housing, despite the covers being able to be bolted perfectly.

My tip to anyone fiddling around with trying to mate their engine to a different tranny is, what you can see, may fit, but what is inside, may not.

The best way to do an AWD swap properly, is to look at the evo, and look at your car, using shop manuals, and then find out if its possible to transfer all bits on the evo AWD to the lancer.

It's something I havent discounted yet, after finding out that a 2.4 engine can be swapped into a lancer, and that Brembos can fit a lancer... AWD is something I'll look at more detail in the future, but to be honest, I dont really want it, as it saps a lot of power.

 

That's what I used to think, but there's something to be said about having stupid amounts of power and AWD. I get absolutely no tire squeal. No matter how hard I hammer it, it just digs in and goes. It's a pretty sweet sensation.

 

Yeah, if I had 300bhp in mine, I would probably want AWD - but I doubt that will happen with the 4G69. I'd just get an evo IX instead if I wanted 300bhp, which im sure in a few years I will. But I definitely believe in progressing in levels with power, and Im sure if I had 300bhp now I'd die, as Im just stepping up from 96Bhp to whatever a fully RRM tuned NA 4G69 will give - and I may find that is enough to kill me!

 

we have had several lancers go the AWD route but this was completed on a different Lancer chassis to the current R.A Lancer... buy basicly what they have all done is get a EVO floor pan and swapped it out with the stock fwd lancer this has given them plenty of room to be able to put the AWD setup into the fwd car one gentlman that I know has spent over $50k AUD in doing this - this also included the engine and he has several issues to say the very least but his car is pumping out massive HP somewere around 500+hp

The other thing to keep in mind is that even though the R.A share alot of the same shape as the EVO there is a lot of things that they don't share and could have a very bad effect on the car - the EVO chassis has a lot of bracing to make sure that all that hp does not drive the car off the road so you would need to look at more chassis bracing and adding more structual strength an intergrity into the car - a gentleman on these forums a few years ago asked how much it would cost to convert his carbi car into a evo - I laughed at him and told him not to do it well he did it and the car looks fantatsic he did a first class job on changing over - check out the Aussie section his username is pubsquash he also has a very indepth how to web page this is a brilliant read and so full of great info check it out

 

Alot of people don't realise it until they actually experience it. I doubt I will ever own a FWD car again and realise early the best way to get a turbo'd AWD car was to buy one stock and go from there.

 

Okay. Next question:

If I want to do cold air intake, is a new hood necessary -- like an Evo type of hood? If yes or no, what are the circumstances?

 

No, you don't need a different hood. It actually gives you more room than stock because it gets rid of the stock air box. There aren't any mods out there that require you to change your hood.