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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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Hi, I just want to know the real FACTs ,REAL dynocharts,
the options are:
-RRM
-AEM
-Injen

I want to see Dynojet charts (stock vs CAI) on Manual tranny Cars

PLEASE , if your not posting a dynochart, please dont post, I dont want to see people saying that rrm, or injen or aem are the best one because i have it. AND also i dont want to see Dynocharts from manufacturer (AEM,RRM,Injen), cause every one knows they all claim theirs are the best...

OK?

So can we do this?, this will be a good topic, depending on the results this can be a sticky , so no body has to ask anymore wich one is the best one.
I'm not posting a dyno chart......but I will post anyway!! No one else has listened to your request (which is sort of outlandish)...

I have the AEM and it is fine. IMO, the difference in gains between brands will be negligible.....so pick the one you are more comfortable with. The only difference would be filter size/material, and type of pipe bend, because all the pipes have to be the same size diameter wise. You would be able to maximize flow with less of a bend....but that is tough to do with the limited space available....so it really comes down to filter size and efficiency.
I picked AEM because I have had their products in the past and like them. Plus I wanted a 2 piece and not a 1 piece.
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 12:33 PM
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not true that no one owns a fujita cai look at my post lol
i will most likely rrm my whole ra
CAI or SRI??
which one do yall like better
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 02:54 PM
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SRI gives better low end, CAI gives better power in the top of the RPM range, it's personal preference.
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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The only difference would be filter size/material, and type of pipe bend, because all the pipes have to be the same size diameter wise.
They only have to be the same diameter at the MAF (2.5".) Elsewhere in the pipe, though, they vary. RRM's is 2.5" for the entire length of the intake. Injen's is 2.75", and reduces at the MAF. Not sure what AEM's is.
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 04:41 PM
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hehehe, ok, thats cool,. i didnt think i will get what i asked, hehehe

anyway i think im going with the Injen, I have hear better reviews from the injen that from RRM, and... AEM? hehe almost nobody have it

also, AEM and RRM has the maf in the same place as the stock sistem, so I better trust injen, because if the moved the maf, near the trottle it has to be because its better

you know, to me it seems that injen take some time looking to what is the best for the cai, the other 2 company, to me seem that they just make a tube with a flange to put the maf and thats all

thats just my opinion, THANKS everybody
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by egk-69
hehehe, ok, thats cool,. i didnt think i will get what i asked, hehehe

anyway i think im going with the Injen, I have hear better reviews from the injen that from RRM, and... AEM? hehe almost nobody have it

also, AEM and RRM has the maf in the same place as the stock sistem, so I better trust injen, because if the moved the maf, near the trottle it has to be because its better

you know, to me it seems that injen take some time looking to what is the best for the cai, the other 2 company, to me seem that they just make a tube with a flange to put the maf and thats all

thats just my opinion, THANKS everybody
Personally I feel that Injen did minimal research on the intake before they built theirs, which is why so many have broken.
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by egk-69
hehehe, ok, thats cool,. i didnt think i will get what i asked, hehehe

anyway i think im going with the Injen, I have hear better reviews from the injen that from RRM, and... AEM? hehe almost nobody have it

also, AEM and RRM has the maf in the same place as the stock sistem, so I better trust injen, because if the moved the maf, near the trottle it has to be because its better

you know, to me it seems that injen take some time looking to what is the best for the cai, the other 2 company, to me seem that they just make a tube with a flange to put the maf and thats all

thats just my opinion, THANKS everybody
told you dude

Injen is better than the others, Dynoed in PR
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 06:42 PM
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Holy cow - this thread is back and fourth, back and fourth, back and fourth lol
For those of you who have the RRM intake (5spd) how's the sound and mid-high range power band?
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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redline8 how did you fit the apex-i catback on ur ra?
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 07:36 PM
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Ha funny you ask. My car was a repo from an owner in NJ - that was actually on it when i bought it. so i have NO clue. He had the work done...but it sounds pretty damn nice.
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 11:46 AM
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Here is my take on the situations since i have owned and tuned a few cars in the last few years. Each intake is not gonna have a much greater gain than the other, maybe +2 or -2 hp. Go with your guy instinct on what looks better to you. each is going to produce a slightly different sound.

I have owned an Injen CAI for the last 2 years and have loved it. It has a great sound and really good top end increase over stock. I relplaced the injen filter with an AEM dry air flow filter last summer and loved the dry filter, I believe they are the way to go, but I think the injen intake is better than AEM's.

Fujita is a branch off from Weapon R. Two owners had dissagreement about intakes so one started his own company. Does not have nice mesh filters like Weapon R but the intake tubes are far more sophisticated and useful. I have owned many Weapon R products and they are a great and helpful company. I am going to buy a Fujita intake come the next few weeks, because my Injen is all scratched up and becoming ugly. I will trust Fujita from past knowledge with Weapon R products, but if the quality and performance lets me down, you guys will be the first I will tell it to.

Go with your guy instinct. I have had no problem with Injen what so ever, but some may. I like RRM as a company but think a larger diameter 2 piece intake is more suitable for our cars, but for any other performance part, order from them.

I hope I was atleast somewhat helpul, and may your qeust to fun and friendly perfomance in your Ralliart be a good one.
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 12:01 PM
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So that was a quick bio of "air intakes" as a whole. Then ending line sounded like the closing line of a well written book but i do give you props on the review. Injen's website sux cause i can't look at a pic of the intake...but i dunno...
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 01:23 PM
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They only have to be the same diameter at the MAF (2.5".) Elsewhere in the pipe, though, they vary. RRM's is 2.5" for the entire length of the intake. Injen's is 2.75", and reduces at the MAF. Not sure what AEM's is.
I believe the AEM is the same all the way up....2.5". Since you are restricted to that size anyway, I would think that the 2.75" then the slight reduction just before the MAF would be kind of a restriction and waste of material.
As for AEM quality....I am happy with it, no problems at all. I know it is built well because it has been solid mounted to the transmission for a couple months and has not broken (dealership broke the rubber flex mount...will fix soon).
But would I be just as happy with RRM or Injen? Probably. Intakes are personal preference due to the negligible differences between them. I.E.....not enough to make a difference.
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Eclipse2Lancer
I believe the AEM is the same all the way up....2.5". Since you are restricted to that size anyway, I would think that the 2.75" then the slight reduction just before the MAF would be kind of a restriction and waste of material.
I agree. It probably creates a touch of turbulance just before the MAF. I think Injen did it to save money. Probably make most of their intakes out of 2.75" piping.
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 03:27 PM
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I dont know, man, like i say

why does injen change the position of the maf? because they dont like it were it was? nahhhhhh i dont think so, i think they spend some time testing were the maf should be to produce better power and they find it better in there

cause I have a intake that I made my self, its 2.75 all the way, also on the maf, the car doenst have any problem, runs great, but I have hear very good review about the injen so im decided to try it my self

BTW: i speak about injen moving the maf , on the Toyota X-runner, URD spend months trying to make the best intake on the market and they moved the maf till they find the best place (maf is behind the truck grille, the stock one is like 3 inches away from the throtle), they pull out 18whp just the intake
maybe injen did this thats why the maf is in different place
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