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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 12:06 PM
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sounds like a snychro problem to me.. regarding the gears in when the car is off and no gears when car is on. Will the car get into gear if the car is rolling?

Sounds like you might need to have some synchro's rebuilt, but honestly it could be that and a combo of other things. Quite possibly your throw out bearing or something in the clutch assembly isn't allowing the disengagement of the clutch.

Another problem I had was when I was in neutral at a red light the car would still want to move forward even though I wasn't in gear...
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 12:11 PM
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In neutral there is no power going to the wheels, there is only power going to the wheels when it is in gear and the clutch is depressed. It could be synchros I guess (praying to god that it isn't), but the fact that the clutch isn't disengaging makes me think that it isn't synchros.
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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Yea, I'm locked out of the gears when the car is on and I can get into gear when the car is off.

The gears were notchy in the morning and slowly got harder and harder to get into gear. Eventually, by the end of the day, the only way to get the car into gear was to rev matching while moving, and turning the car of when stopped.

When I was driving, if I pushed the clutch and hit the gas, the drive shaft was still get power.
If you can rev match them into gear that means that your syncro's are ok. If they weren't you would be able to get them into gear. Sounds to me that the clutch isn't working properly. Either adjustment in the pedal assembly, prematurely worn out release bearing, damaged pressure plate, pivot ball to shift fork has excessive play. There is alot of things that need to be looked at. Also if you have the vehicle off and you can shift into the gears that is what us transmission builders call "static shifting" to ensure that the vehicle is capable of going into gear. You might also be loosing pressure to the pushrod for the shift fork. Let us know whatever you find. Hope this will help alittle.
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 07:46 PM
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If you can rev match them into gear that means that your syncro's are ok. If they weren't you would be able to get them into gear. Sounds to me that the clutch isn't working properly. Either adjustment in the pedal assembly, prematurely worn out release bearing, damaged pressure plate, pivot ball to shift fork has excessive play. There is alot of things that need to be looked at. Also if you have the vehicle off and you can shift into the gears that is what us transmission builders call "static shifting" to ensure that the vehicle is capable of going into gear. You might also be loosing pressure to the pushrod for the shift fork. Let us know whatever you find. Hope this will help alittle.
I gave in today and took it to the tranny shop. I couldn't deal with it and midterms at the same time.
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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I should know tomorrow.
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 08:17 PM
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ok, considering the problems there maybe some premature damage to your syncros. Would be interesting to see if there is anything wrong internally.
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 08:23 PM
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ok, considering the problems there maybe some premature damage to your syncros. Would be interesting to see if there is anything wrong internally.
STOP WITH THE HIGHS AND LOWS. You keep sending such mixed signals. Lol, I hope it's not an internal problem.
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 03:56 AM
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STOP WITH THE HIGHS AND LOWS. You keep sending such mixed signals. Lol, I hope it's not an internal problem.
That's what I said till they told me I needed new 1st/2nd synchros...

I think they were damaged when the clutch master went out the 2nd time.. I was only a couple miles from home and I tried to get the car home, in the process probably f'ed everything up in my own stupidity.
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 10:12 AM
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Lol, so far they have found a hole in the bell housing
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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wtf? take photos...
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 01:00 PM
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I haven't seen it yet, but when they get the tranny out and we see what caused it I'll try and take some pics.
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 02:00 PM
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Lol, so far they have found a hole in the bell housing
thats what happen to my second transsmition i never fix it i just got a new one
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 02:47 PM
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Well biglou, it turnsout that you were right. The clutch came apart.
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 02:48 PM
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I guess I should phone rob.
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 04:38 AM
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yea tell him to give you the phone# for act. rob is a big help wen it comes to his customers.
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