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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 07:37 PM
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My car lost its pedal pressure the other day and so it would not disengage the clutch. It got towed to the dealer ship and they said they replaced some sleeve and that the ss clutch line is at fault. Has anyone else had an issue with having an aftermarket clutch with the clutch line on the clutch system components?
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 05:07 AM
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It was probably your slave cylinder that went, but they LOVE to blame any non-factory part for the failure.
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 09:05 AM
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There's not a chance in hell that it's the clutchline, unless it was leaking.
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 05:15 PM
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but they LOVE to blame any non-factory part for the failure.
This is so true, I would say take it to several garages and get different opinions if it were driveable.

you should see how much they want to fix it, sometimes it isn't even worth the trouble.
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 12:08 AM
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i was thinking it had to do with the slave, according to the mechanic there is a trend with the ss clutchline of it causing parts to fail? they are charging 600 bucks to fix it and parts will take two weeks, then they said they may have to replace the clutch, im going to call bs on that one if they decide its "necessary".
Then i also have 3 codes 0031 0131 and 0136, these all have to do with a failing upstream O2 sensor correct? they said this is due to having no cat, i dont think they even looked at the codes, these codes are from the other O2 sensor right? the one used to determine fuel maps not check the cats efficiency right? if it is im going to have to correct them tommorow.
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 12:31 AM
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p0131 is a failure in the heated o2 sensor BEFORE the cat, so that would in fact have nothing to do with whether or not if you have a cat on or not.

p0136 is failure in the o2 sensor AFTER the cat, so this could have to do with the cat.

IMO pulling both would mean bad connection, but that's just speculation.

and I've never even heard of/seen a p0031 for the RA
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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its acctually a p0134 not 136 my mistake, that sensor is no good then right? that one is kind of important right? the p0031 is heater circuit low, not exactly sure what it means but ya im going to have to order an o2 sensor i think, thanks for the help!
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 08:55 PM
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if so then the dealership is full of crap.

p0134 and p0131 both have to do with o2 sensor BEFORE the cat, so the non existence of the cat would have no effect on it.

sounds like you just need another o2 sensor, you can order them from zeitronix for like $79 IIRC, RRM also sells them.

But you should still tell the dealership they are full of it for trying to steal money, for the satisfaction of the majority of the members on here

but yes, in response yo your previous post, that o2 sensor changes the fuel maps, and does not determine how efficient the cat is.
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Old Dec 17, 2008 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by duderr_666
My car lost its pedal pressure the other day and so it would not disengage the clutch. It got towed to the dealer ship and they said they replaced some sleeve and that the ss clutch line is at fault. Has anyone else had an issue with having an aftermarket clutch with the clutch line on the clutch system components?
Definitely not the ss clutchline. Probably either the Clutch Slave cylinder (92$) or the Clutch Master cylinder (140$)... Labor shouldn't run you that much, take it elsewhere or try it yourself. I've done my master cylinder three times and the first time its a ***** to get them in/out but just play with it for a while and shouldn't take more than 4 hours with installation trouble. Slave cylinder is right in front, that's an easy one. As for clutchline bleeding, have a buddy sit in the car and pump while you open/close the valve.

Not worth shelling out 600$. Try to find out exactly what failed...
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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 07:32 AM
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U dont really need to buy the master clutch cyl., just replace the O-ring, cuz thats the part that "breaks", I just replaced it with a sturdier O-ring, had a bit of an issue with fitment at first, but a little bit of patience goes a long way

Now on the Slave, theres no way around it. Unless U can find a repair kit that has the same seal as the RA. Just replace the seal and check the actual part for damage. But it is better to actually change it to be sure
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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 03:47 PM
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Well the 3rd one was warrantied by the dealer, I just had to install em' myself.
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 12:06 PM
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ya i dont feel good about taking my car anywhere really, everyones prices are stupid, at this one shop i was going to i heard the owner telling these kids 1200 bucks for a cold air intake installed on their civic, havent been back since.

$600 does seem rediculous but i didnt know what was wrong/its -30 c here not the time to be working on your car.

The dealership was saying buying a new o2 sensor is $500, is that like what an oem sensor costs? Or can i just call them stupid? Im so lucky this dealership is the only reputable one in hundreds of kilometers.
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 12:29 PM
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for the o2 sensor hes saying im getting those codes because the downstream sensor, due to having no cat, is getting the same signal as the upstream sensor. So it is throwing the codes are these codes then what everone has being catless? 0131 0134 and 0031
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Originally Posted by duderr_666
for the o2 sensor hes saying im getting those codes because the downstream sensor, due to having no cat, is getting the same signal as the upstream sensor. So it is throwing the codes are these codes then what everone has being catless? 0131 0134 and 0031
No, the code for cat inefficiency (no cat) is 0420.
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 10:15 PM
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Stupid dealership trying to take advantage of people.

EVEN IF the downstream o2 sensor got the same reading, it wouldn't cause the upstream one to fail, your CEL codes are for low voltage/no activity, which would mean it's simply not working and not getting an off reading.

plus what otter said, the downstream o2 sensor would throw a p0420 for cat inefficiency.
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