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Old Nov 2, 2015 | 07:47 PM
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2005 Ralliart timing belt issue

Hey guys need any help if anyone has had the same experience..so the car has been down for 3 weeks already. when the car broke down my timing belt snapped at around 10mph and the car died.my first reaction was to crank the ignition again but no luck. the car has 199,xxx miles I replaced the timing belt and the starter and the car dosent start-any suggestions because im lost.any help is big help..thanks
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Old Nov 3, 2015 | 05:44 AM
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So you did change the timing belt? Your 100% sure everything is timed properly? Does the engine even try to turn over when you turn the key?
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Old Nov 3, 2015 | 12:32 PM
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So you did change the timing belt? Your 100% sure everything is timed properly? Does the engine even try to turn over when you turn the key?
Yes timing belt is new and the timing is good as far as I know. The engine dosent turn
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Old Nov 3, 2015 | 09:34 PM
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Yes timing belt is new and the timing is good as far as I know. The engine dosent turn
Any CELs still on? Could be a faulty cam position sensor or crank position sensor.
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Old Nov 4, 2015 | 09:12 PM
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Any CELs still on? Could be a faulty cam position sensor or crank position sensor.
Update : the motor now turns over but very slow and sluggish not enough to start..also the motor has low/ no compression..how can I check those sensors if there faulty?
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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 04:57 AM
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If you lack compression the problem is more than a few sensors.
Remove the head and diagnose the lack of compression first.
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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 06:19 AM
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What '06 said. If you have no compression something else is wrong.

Did you have to replace any valves after the belt broke? If not that is likely the issue. When the timing belt breaks it often causes the pistons to beat the valves and them not seal properly causing no compression.
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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 11:47 AM
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What '06 said. If you have no compression something else is wrong.

Did you have to replace any valves after the belt broke? If not that is likely the issue. When the timing belt breaks it often causes the pistons to beat the valves and them not seal properly causing no compression.
No I didn't replace any valves since I was in the impression that nothing happened to them since I was going 10 mph and the motor turned off..so i should replace all the valves? Any ideas on how much could that cost?? I heard that the car has 2 timing systems does that play a factor or not?..I apologize for all the questions its that im learning as I go
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Speed doesnt matter. If the engine is still rotating it can come into contact with the valves. I doubt you'll have to replace all of them. It usually costs $3-400 around here to get the head rebuilt at a machine shop. But again that depends on the extent of the damage.

There are are two timing belts if thats what your talking about. One for the crank, oil pump, and cam. The other for the rear balance shaft. But if you have no compression that has nothing to do with the problem at this point.
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Old Nov 6, 2015 | 07:16 PM
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Speed doesnt matter. If the engine is still rotating it can come into contact with the valves. I doubt you'll have to replace all of them. It usually costs $3-400 around here to get the head rebuilt at a machine shop. But again that depends on the extent of the damage.

There are are two timing belts if thats what your talking about. One for the crank, oil pump, and cam. The other for the rear balance shaft. But if you have no compression that has nothing to do with the problem at this point.
Well found out valves are done and im leaning towards doing a swap on it..any suggestions on were to go for 4g69 motors?
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Old Nov 7, 2015 | 08:37 AM
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Well found out valves are done and im leaning towards doing a swap on it..any suggestions on were to go for 4g69 motors?
Its only the head that needs rebuilt. But if you wanna do a full swap have at it. 4g69 came I'm several cars now. Ralliarts, Eclipse, Galant, and Outlanders come to mind. Make sure you get the right year tho. Some 2.4l in those models are the 4g64 which has no mivec.
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Old Dec 18, 2015 | 12:29 AM
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I have a real clean head with a fresh valve job if interested.
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