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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 10:50 AM
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Anyone know if the 2005 Ralliarts have Blackboxes in them? My father said that 60% of cars now have them in them, and I was just sorta curious

I somehow doubt they do, I could ask the Dealership if they do, but I don't know if they'd say they did or not
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 12:12 PM
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blackbox....explain if you could plz.
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 12:18 PM
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I think that a blackbox is what they have in plane lol. It's a kind of gps so you can know where the car is. For exemple when you got your car stole or something... But i don't think that we have that in RA.
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 12:21 PM
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Blackboxes are installed in all new cars... 2000 and up I think. The blackbox records everything your cars does, this way if you get into an accident they can take the data out of it and see how fast you were going, how hard you pressed the brakes, etc. Has nothing to do with GPS.
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 01:28 PM
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Blackboxes are installed in all new cars... 2000 and up I think. The blackbox records everything your cars does, this way if you get into an accident they can take the data out of it and see how fast you were going, how hard you pressed the brakes, etc. Has nothing to do with GPS.
Exactly what you said it was.

I'm curious if our car's have them, the 2005, i'm not sure if its a good or bad thing to have it, but i'd hate for the cops to know I was going 80-100+, lol

I think 65% of all 2005 cars have them.

Not sure if we do or not.
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 01:35 PM
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Ok ok my mistake.. But plane still have one lol.
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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Ok ok my mistake.. But plane still have one lol.
Yes - they do, except theirs record what people say, except, same concept, except a car just needs to know the MPH, Brake force, etc etc, few other th ings.
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 01:44 PM
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wtf, when did any of this happen? why do you have to go out and buy a chip to get to read all this stuff when we already have this crap in our cars?
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 02:34 PM
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Unless it's built into one of the many ECUs in our cars, I don't think the RAs have black boxes. I've seen nothing in the service manual about it.
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Fifty
Blackboxes are installed in all new cars... 2000 and up I think. The blackbox records everything your cars does, this way if you get into an accident they can take the data out of it and see how fast you were going, how hard you pressed the brakes, etc. Has nothing to do with GPS.
Not everything, typically speed, throttle position, brake pedal hit or not (no force reading) There may be g force or deceleration info too, not sure.
Most boxes are on about a 5-20 second loop. That is, they record what those inputs were doing from 5-20 seconds ago (depending on the car). So a blackbox really can't be used for anything but crash data (how fast the car was going, whether or not the driver accelerated, hit the brake etc).
A cop won't pull you over and plug in to see what you were doing.
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by captain150
A cop won't pull you over and plug in to see what you were doing.

I'm sure that fact hasn't been overlooked by some police forces, and I'm sure it will happen in the near future.
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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I'm sure that fact hasn't been overlooked by some police forces, and I'm sure it will happen in the near future.
Oh they may want to, but the record loop is too short. It takes more than 5-20 seconds to get pulled over. Most people slow down first, find a good spot and slow down gradually and park. So the cop would plug in and see an ordinary curve of brake pedal pushed, throttle at idle, speed slowly dropping. The 120MPH speed would be long over written
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 05:22 PM
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That's some interesting stuff, I never knew blackboxes existed in anything other than planes.
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 05:50 PM
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Her in the good ol' USA we have laws that protect us from search and seizure. A cop can't just plug into your black box and write a ticket. He needs a warrent.
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 05:55 PM
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GM has had these this since the late 80's in most models
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