Random B1tching about our aftermarket companies
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Our car just came out for a few yrs. The after-market parts is what everyone is craving for, so aftermarket industries will overcharge because HEY its a business, they have to earn their living.
+ Some of the aftermarket business put time and money into developing their parts for the ralliart. They basically put investments and hopefully they want to make a profit.
+ Some of the aftermarket business put time and money into developing their parts for the ralliart. They basically put investments and hopefully they want to make a profit.
You are going through now what we went through and still to some extent are going through now.
If all you do is troll this site then you will pay the appropriate prices. Be patient and look for alternatives away from this site. It's gonna take some time but eventually things will get better.
The most highly modded OZ/ES/LS guys are into custom DIY stuff. That's also an option for you all.
WADAD
If all you do is troll this site then you will pay the appropriate prices. Be patient and look for alternatives away from this site. It's gonna take some time but eventually things will get better.
The most highly modded OZ/ES/LS guys are into custom DIY stuff. That's also an option for you all.
WADAD
Originally Posted by blk-majik
when i bought the ralliart, i saw a car with lots of potential. it was young and i had all kinds of plans that i couldnt make happen on my own. well, im starting to understand the aftermarket industry and coming to the sad conclusion that any given car's potential is not worth crap. if you want a new model good/fast car, buy a good/fast car. dont expect anyone to try to sell the necessary modifications to you. they will, but for the price, you could just buy a faster car to begin with.
example:
ralliart: $20k
turbo: $5k
other engine mods: $2.5k
suspension/handling mods: $2.5k
the ralliart is suddenly around $30k of FWD with not warranty. For about that price, i could get an evo or a Z or a stang GT (with $5k left over) or a g35 or sti, or even a used porsche 996, all financed for only about an extra $150/month. ****, i spend twice than that on lunch every month! and any of these cars are as fast if not faster than the ralliart /w all that stuff done, with no warranty issues....
so unless something really changes, my money is staying in my pocket for the time being.....and possibly until i pay the car off enough to be above water for a trade. I'm happy with it for what it is, dont get me wrong. but its too much to make it anything more
example:
ralliart: $20k
turbo: $5k
other engine mods: $2.5k
suspension/handling mods: $2.5k
the ralliart is suddenly around $30k of FWD with not warranty. For about that price, i could get an evo or a Z or a stang GT (with $5k left over) or a g35 or sti, or even a used porsche 996, all financed for only about an extra $150/month. ****, i spend twice than that on lunch every month! and any of these cars are as fast if not faster than the ralliart /w all that stuff done, with no warranty issues....
so unless something really changes, my money is staying in my pocket for the time being.....and possibly until i pay the car off enough to be above water for a trade. I'm happy with it for what it is, dont get me wrong. but its too much to make it anything more
I wish I could have just gotten the NA performance I wanted out the box.
WADAD
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From: Caguas, P.R
I love my car and I'm not thinking of jumping ship. Am i pissed because of the lack of performance parts? Yes. I'm glad that some companies are doing some R&D on the ralliart and anyone who's barely begun to modify the RA knows that with some good performance parts the RA would be an even more awesome car. I use to have a 92 awd turbo talon and I would love to make my RA turbo , but it makes me think , I pay $341 a month for my car with insurance and with the amount of money that the RRM turbo kit costs I could make 13 CAR PAYMENTS. I would have more than a year of the car paid and I'm sorry but thats just to much for me. I'm not trying to say anything bad about RRM if you look at my sig I buy a lot of stuff from them , but the fact is that aftermarket parts for the RA are WAY TO EXPENSIVE . Just my .02 cents. 
But parts for evo's are just as expensive, if not more.
wow...lots to think about ... im planning on trading in my OZ for a R/A pretty soon once i get my credit score up ... and i think im down to put the investments in with the high prices of the aftermarket...the main reason i want the R/A is because its unique...EVERYONE has a freakin honda, nissan, or hell even EVOs are more common to see on the road...but hey you buy an evo youll still see the prices for parts to be pretty expensive...i cant wait to get that R/A and save up for turbo ...
My car is done... it is not worth the investment because I already have 14,000 mi on it and I've only had it for about 6 months... besides the fact that vehicle specific parts are useless when you sell the car... at least my wheels will fit something else... and my system... those are my major investments... either way... the cost to benefit ratio is completely lop sided...
I don't get it, isn't the saying you gotta pay to play?
Sure the aftermarket parts are expensive, and you could buy a load of parts and never get much return on them, but that stands for every car you buy.
For under $1.000 you can add what.. 30hp?
For $600 you can add another 20?
Those are rough numbers off rrm's site but you get the idea. I figure most of the RA owners either couldn't get the EVO because of the location, or couldn't afford to or want to pay as much for the EVO or any car for that matter.
I think its well know that putting money into a car won't get the money back, I thought the point of modding was to stand out and to get the car to perform as best as you want it to.
Sure the aftermarket parts are expensive, and you could buy a load of parts and never get much return on them, but that stands for every car you buy.
For under $1.000 you can add what.. 30hp?
For $600 you can add another 20?
Those are rough numbers off rrm's site but you get the idea. I figure most of the RA owners either couldn't get the EVO because of the location, or couldn't afford to or want to pay as much for the EVO or any car for that matter.
I think its well know that putting money into a car won't get the money back, I thought the point of modding was to stand out and to get the car to perform as best as you want it to.
I have had many other cars and modded the **** out of them dumpin tons of money in the process... but for some reason I am not getting the satisfaction out of this one that I have the others... the price for the parts dampers my appreciation of the parts... I do like my car... but I don't think that is a good car to mod... there are some people that have done a really good job... but I would like to see how much they have put into the car... but when all is said and done... you have a car with half the total of the vehicle price invested into modifications and it's only worth half of what you paid for it... I love customizing cars but this is just an expensive car to do it to...
A Revoloution! or maybe a little bickerin whateva
Originally Posted by r3z0nate
I don't get it, isn't the saying you gotta pay to play?
and the performance gains listed on RRMs website are marketing numbers. They are BS and many dynos on this site show it. you want 50hp? the real kind of HP? you need the turbo. You will get a bit more than 50, but not much. I have about $1000 of RRM stuff or equiv/better on my car and I dyno 169/169.
Originally Posted by blk-majik
no, its "You gotta pay to play or you can just get a honda"
and the performance gains listed on RRMs website are marketing numbers. They are BS and many dynos on this site show it. you want 50hp? the real kind of HP? you need the turbo. You will get a bit more than 50, but not much. I have about $1000 of RRM stuff or equiv/better on my car and I dyno 169/169.
and the performance gains listed on RRMs website are marketing numbers. They are BS and many dynos on this site show it. you want 50hp? the real kind of HP? you need the turbo. You will get a bit more than 50, but not much. I have about $1000 of RRM stuff or equiv/better on my car and I dyno 169/169.
dude wtf??? that is serious cash...
and about the bs i feell the anger because i have seen it first hand.. and i do not want to bash or rant against the rrm people since the vast mayority of the aftermarket has been their brain child (exept the pulley) BUT most of the gains are just too good to be true and most of them placebos...
Last edited by PR_Mivec; Oct 14, 2005 at 10:10 AM.
I know they are marketing numbers, thats why I said roughtly.
I'm not saying get a honda either, I was just saying that parts are expensive, you won't get any return on them when you sell your car, it might even be harder to sell your car with them all on it. The RA may not be the cheapest aftermarket parts but they aren't the most expensive. Maybe with the eclipse out we'll see more engine part options. I'm pretty happy with the parts available right now, I'd love to see more options, cheaper prices like every other guy. I didn't get an EVO because my insurance company would rape me, even though I've never been in an accident, and never had ANY moving violations. I'd rather have more things right now than a sports car, $1000.00 is just too much a month for me where I'm at in my life
$300 payments and the ability to buy parts as a choose to make a car fast is fine for me, sure its fwd but its still a nice car.
I'm not saying get a honda either, I was just saying that parts are expensive, you won't get any return on them when you sell your car, it might even be harder to sell your car with them all on it. The RA may not be the cheapest aftermarket parts but they aren't the most expensive. Maybe with the eclipse out we'll see more engine part options. I'm pretty happy with the parts available right now, I'd love to see more options, cheaper prices like every other guy. I didn't get an EVO because my insurance company would rape me, even though I've never been in an accident, and never had ANY moving violations. I'd rather have more things right now than a sports car, $1000.00 is just too much a month for me where I'm at in my life
$300 payments and the ability to buy parts as a choose to make a car fast is fine for me, sure its fwd but its still a nice car.
do you really think that the eclipse will be our salvation.. i guess not.. the fact of the eclipse having the v6 will make manufactures make performance parts for that one not for the 4 banger