this really really sucks!!
Originally Posted by amg_dragon
So I guess we don't want to talk about the Lotus Elise with the Camry 4 banger in it?
The Elise has the celica 4 banger the 2zzfe, which is now also available in the Corolla XRS and the Matrix XRS. The camry four banger is in the scion tC. Anyway the camry is NOT faster. HP is not the only factor. The new camry has 210 hp and barley makes sixty in under 9 seconds.
Originally Posted by Theanimedude
I was looking at how fast my 92 camry v6 xle is, and its actually faster than the ralliart!! is that true??
http://auto.consumerguide.com/Auto/U...arreviewspecs/
specs for my car:
dohc V6 3.0 / 180 185 195 5-speed manual: 18/24
4-speed automatic: 18/24
5-speed manual: --
4-speed automatic: 18.5
if the ralliart isnt even faster than my car, then wahts the point in getting it?1?! =\
http://auto.consumerguide.com/Auto/U...arreviewspecs/
specs for my car:
dohc V6 3.0 / 180 185 195 5-speed manual: 18/24
4-speed automatic: 18/24
5-speed manual: --
4-speed automatic: 18.5
if the ralliart isnt even faster than my car, then wahts the point in getting it?1?! =\
Originally Posted by javastan
The Elise has the celica 4 banger the 2zzfe, which is now also available in the Corolla XRS and the Matrix XRS. The camry four banger is in the scion tC. Anyway the camry is NOT faster. HP is not the only factor. The new camry has 210 hp and barley makes sixty in under 9 seconds.
all the internals are hopped up in the lotus though. its a bit different.ontopic: no the camery is not faster. haha whata joke.
Originally Posted by LeftysRule22
all the internals are hopped up in the lotus though. its a bit different.ontopic: no the camery is not faster. haha whata joke.
My 3.5se Nissan Altima is pretty fast for a family sedan
Originally Posted by zze86
Actually, no the only thing changed in the elise is the ECU has different mapping. and it's a 2zzGe.
My 3.5se Nissan Altima is pretty fast for a family sedan
My 3.5se Nissan Altima is pretty fast for a family sedan

This thread is hilarious. To beat a dead horse: power-weight ratio kicks your a$$. Also keep in mind difference between HP and torque and where and what the torque peak is in comparison with 0-60. Also the difference in tuning/utilization of the motor. Nice try though. You'll apparently be impressed when you drive it.
Originally Posted by blackhawkRA
This thread is hilarious. To beat a dead horse: power-weight ratio kicks your a$$. Also keep in mind difference between HP and torque and where and what the torque peak is in comparison with 0-60. Also the difference in tuning/utilization of the motor. Nice try though. You'll apparently be impressed when you drive it.
Just to give an extreme example:
The RA - 162HP, ~2840lbs. 0-60: ~7.5 seconds. Weight/HP Ratio 17.53lbs to 1HP
US NavyNimitz class Aircraft Carriers - ~700,000 HP, 97,000 tons without load. 0-60: Never, top speed is ~56 km/h. Weight/HP ratio: 277.14lbs to 1HP.
The RA - 162HP, ~2840lbs. 0-60: ~7.5 seconds. Weight/HP Ratio 17.53lbs to 1HP
US NavyNimitz class Aircraft Carriers - ~700,000 HP, 97,000 tons without load. 0-60: Never, top speed is ~56 km/h. Weight/HP ratio: 277.14lbs to 1HP.
it is true....RA is much faster than a camry. I used to own a camry and my brother owns a ralliart, huge difference. EVO vs RA isnt fair, so we tested camry vs RA instead. But the cary has a smoother ride. Anyhow totally different class of cars.


