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Old May 8, 2006 | 05:18 PM
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Need help with Tie Bar

Hey Guys,

I'm trying to install the RRM Tie Bar right now and am running into some problems... I followed DangerousDans How-to and it's really clear and all, but I'm having some problems loosening the 2 nuts attached to the bolt.

I tried WD-40ing it, but came to the conclusion that it's not caked on there but just really freaking tight. I do not have an impact wrench and cannot jack it too high so I suppose it's the lack of applied torque, but is there anything you guys can recommend?

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Old May 8, 2006 | 05:41 PM
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you talking the bolts on the car? I couldn't get them off by hand....I had to use my impact.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 05:45 PM
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I'm referring to the nuts on the opposite side of the camber hash marks.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 05:59 PM
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I used a long handled rachet and a hammer. Creating my own impact gun. Worked out good.

Just make sure you mark the position of the washers, or your alignment will be buggered.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 06:00 PM
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i had to use an impact.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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Alright thanks guys, looks like I'll have to find or buy an impact. RalliartCA's idea sounds good, but I don't think I have enough room under there because I didn't jack it up that high. In fact, I just used the jack that came with the car... yeah I know, manual says not to use it for anything else other then changing tires lol.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by sobe
Alright thanks guys, looks like I'll have to find or buy an impact. RalliartCA's idea sounds good, but I don't think I have enough room under there because I didn't jack it up that high. In fact, I just used the jack that came with the car... yeah I know, manual says not to use it for anything else other then changing tires lol.
If you plan on doing work to your car you should get a decent jack and jack stands. Please tell me you weren't under the car with that tin jack holding it up....
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Old May 8, 2006 | 06:51 PM
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I didn't have an impact back then, so I used a 36" breaker bar and a socket. Still had to pull pretty hard.

Use a good jack and jackstands, the factory jack can fall over if you're underneath, pulling on a breaker bar or ratchet.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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Leverage is your friend.

After placing jack stands under the car, get a wrench on a nut, and use a pipe on the handle of the wrench that will extend the length of your grip. The longer the pipe, the more leverage you will have.

PLEASE USE JACK STANDS, AS YOU WILL PROBABLY BE ROCKING THE CAR WITH THE AMOUNT FORCE YOU WILL NEED!!!
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Old May 8, 2006 | 11:00 PM
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FYI, it's a LOT easier to take the tie bar on/off by using ramps instead of jackstands. Gets the car nice and high off the ground, so plenty of room to swing a breaker bar (I got it off with a 18", no problem), plus, it keeps some weight on the suspension, so you're far less likely to be able to move the camber bolt.
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Old May 9, 2006 | 12:36 AM
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I REALLY hope you didnt have the car sitting on the jack when you tried to take those bolts off. If you were than never do it again and thank God for the next few weeks over and over again for not killing you.

Like someone else said, go get yourself a decent jack (the stock jack will crumble in a heartbeat, I've seen it happen with my own eyes) and a set of jack stands. For $30-40 dollars you can get yourself a decent jack and stands at your local autoparts store. For the impact wrench you can do like I always do when I need a tool that I know I'm not going to use again in the next year or so. Go to Sears, buy it, use it, then return it and just tell them it wasn't what you needed. Or you can go the more morally sound way and rent it from Home Depot for 40 bucks or so.
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Old May 9, 2006 | 08:23 AM
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Buy a set of $10 jack stands and get a breaker bar; use your legs as torque. Worked like a charm on mine...
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Old May 9, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by AdamRA
If you plan on doing work to your car you should get a decent jack and jack stands. Please tell me you weren't under the car with that tin jack holding it up....
I failed every single warning in the manual

I'm especially proud of the "don't use the jack for anything other then changing your tire".
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Old May 9, 2006 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by bigdoggy_dog
I REALLY hope you didnt have the car sitting on the jack when you tried to take those bolts off. If you were than never do it again and thank God for the next few weeks over and over again for not killing you.

Like someone else said, go get yourself a decent jack (the stock jack will crumble in a heartbeat, I've seen it happen with my own eyes) and a set of jack stands. For $30-40 dollars you can get yourself a decent jack and stands at your local autoparts store. For the impact wrench you can do like I always do when I need a tool that I know I'm not going to use again in the next year or so. Go to Sears, buy it, use it, then return it and just tell them it wasn't what you needed. Or you can go the more morally sound way and rent it from Home Depot for 40 bucks or so.
I had some decent jack stands at home, but I didn't know where the jack points were aside from the ones noted in the manual. I know there is one in the front. The jack that is used to change the tire had a groove in it that fit perfectly on the side of the car so to avoid any damage to the car I used that instead.

Didn't know that it was that weak.

Anyways, got it installed this morning and I definitely notice a difference. Will share this in the already open thread.

Last edited by sobe; May 9, 2006 at 01:08 PM.
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Old May 11, 2006 | 08:23 PM
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personally i went to my local custom shop and just used their lift and did the work myself. that way i could get completely under the car.

however i odnt know how many shops will let you do that, i have done alot of dealings with bobby's so he didnt mind me using it. also if you know anyone in the carshops in town you can prob use that.

i tried in my drive but found it was far too hard to do with manual labor, had to break out the high techs...lol
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