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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 08:52 AM
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Can I use just the downpipe from RRM wth my stock headers? I was just thinking to heat wrap or paint the stock headers. Or can I have an exhaust shop make a custom downpipe? And if I go for a custom cat back should I just buy a muffler, resonator, and high flow cat off of ebay? I just dont see how 2.25 will do any different, I dont think 2.5 would be overkill, I did read that topic so dont bust my *****.
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 09:10 AM
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with a 2.5 in exhaust you'll loose a lot of back pressure and unless you're going turbo I wouldn't suggest it. Most people stick with 2.25 for a N/A car.

RRM no longer sells just the downpipe, the new setup they sell is the downpipe header combo... Having an exhaust shop make a custom downpipe would probably be cheaper altogether as RRM is fairly expensive. I have the RRM downpipe, (no cat) and the RRM catback exhaust (2.25). It has 1 magnaflow resonator and 1 magnaflow muffler. The setup sounds pretty good but does get a bit tinny since I lack a cat.

All in all, I'm happy with the setup right now, and am working on simulating my O2's so that I can pass inspection in June but that shouldn't be a problem.
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 06:35 AM
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yea get the RRM H+DP combo its great i have it but im also with you^^^ i also lack a Hi flo cat so it gets raspy from 2K RPM to about 3500 RPM and the SES light is on but im not worried sparkplug foulers can fix that
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 02:59 AM
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I have heard the stock piping is 2 1/8 so 2 1/4 wouldn't do much more unless I put in a high flow cat and different downpipe. Is the stock cat weld on or bolt on?

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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 04:53 AM
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stock cat on 04 lancer ralliarts is welded into the setup. No offense but anything larger than 2 1/8" is a gain. Granted our stock exhaust isn't restrictive it doesn't hurt to free it up a bit more. I just think 2.5 is pushing it unless you plan on going turbo. But its your car do as you please, there are a couple n/a guys who run 2.5inch setups and don't mind it. I just don't think its practical for n/a performance purposes cause we need some backpressure since we're not turbo'ed.

there are tons of threads discussing exhaust size so I'm not going to argue it anymore. But one thing I will say is if you don't like a really obnoxious raspy and tinny sound from 2-3300 rpms then I suggest a Cat.... Plus highway driving pisses my passengers off but i just tell them to shove it or tuck and roll.
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 02:17 PM
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A 2.5 inch exhaust shuts the raspyness a bit, but quite ups the resonance thru the car...Im talking about a PROPERLY done exhaust, with its resonator and mandrel bends, and a good muffler..pretty much the muffler dictates how much resonance will get thru in combination tih the ex. piping.

Also, with a 2.5 inch exhaust u can still get back pressure. It has to do with the muffler U install with it. U can always buy a free flow muffler with a smaller diameter on the inside or the tip, not a lot smaller but a bit. That way u make a bit of back pressure higher in the RPMs.... I dont prefer it that way but some ppl do it...so more power to them. What I do is match the diameter al the way to the tip
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by KreepaEvoX
A 2.5 inch exhaust shuts the raspyness a bit, but quite ups the resonance thru the car...Im talking about a PROPERLY done exhaust, with its resonator and mandrel bends, and a good muffler..pretty much the muffler dictates how much resonance will get thru in combination tih the ex. piping.

Also, with a 2.5 inch exhaust u can still get back pressure. It has to do with the muffler U install with it. U can always buy a free flow muffler with a smaller diameter on the inside or the tip, not a lot smaller but a bit. That way u make a bit of back pressure higher in the RPMs.... I dont prefer it that way but some ppl do it...so more power to them. What I do is match the diameter al the way to the tip

I guess what I'm trying to say is you'll loose low end torque... Or that's what I noticed just going catless... I do get high end a bit more but yea.
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Old May 1, 2008 | 04:31 AM
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^^^^ +10, you do loose the feel of torque until u get to around 4k
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Old May 1, 2008 | 05:04 PM
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I have a 2.5 borla axle back. I thought it seemed to pull alittle better but that just maybe because of the sound? I like how it sounds though, would recommend it
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Old May 1, 2008 | 06:25 PM
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does the CEL come on running catless?
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Old May 1, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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Obviously yes. There are limited ways around it...search a bit
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