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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 10:44 AM
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RRM S.S Clutch lines

Hey guys, I just noticed this up on the RRM site. I'm hoping Rock or Boe can give us some more info on these. Are they difficult to install? Does it JUST alter clutch feel or is there any kind of other advantage to this?
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 04:55 PM
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I would also like to know some more about this.
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 06:45 PM
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are they the same as the evo8 lines?
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 07:37 PM
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Good point - would this also work on the Lancer OZ's ??
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 09:02 AM
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C'mon out ROCK...give us the scoops
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 09:36 AM
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they are not needed on the regular lancer(02-03)... i'm not for sure about the 04 non-mivecs.

Basically the ralliart has a restrictor in the clutch line to keep the car from being snapped into gear or keep it from a hard shift. The evo has the same thing just in a different location/design. Just take a look at the tranny in the Ralliart and you'll see this canaster looking thing inline with the clutch line. This makes for a wimpy clutch engagement. For those who want it manly and full on you'll want this mod.

It is a quick install procedure but you'll need to bleed the clutch after install. A buddy can assist with this and be done in a few minutes.
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 10:37 AM
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Is this a safe mod for the tranny then?

So by having these lines it allows the clutch to engage quicker? You said "full on"...does this mean that our clutch isn't fully engaged then?
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 10:45 AM
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i think boe just meant that if you wanted a full on manly feel to your clutch then this is the thing to get
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 11:13 AM
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Ok, I understand that this changes the "feel" of the clutch. Basicly just a sportier feel then??

So there is no real performance upgrade to this then? Just the way Boe was making it sound was that it allows for a crisper and firmer clutch engagement. Which I would think would lead to better launch times.
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 12:09 PM
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That is what i'm saying... the stock restrictor actaully slows down the engagement of the clutch. This makes the car easier to drive and shift but if your trying to race it you are actually losing precious time and your putting a little extra spin on the clutch rather than just grabbing and going.

Most evo guys remove thiers for this very reason. If you want to be able to launch the car effectively and be as fast as possible then you'll want this mod. Otherwise your continued launching or hard driving could lead to premature clutch wear.
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 03:30 PM
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So your saying the stock resistors actually wears down the clutch faster than after installing the rrm mod?
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 08:23 PM
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How would one go about bleeding a clutch? Is it the same as bleeding brakes in that you just engage-disengage-engage-repeat with a bleeder valve open? And where is the bleeder valve. This is the first manual I have had.
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 03:45 AM
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Let me rephrase what I'm trying to ask. Is the stock resistor that helps shifting gears more smoothly actually bleeding the clutch???
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 07:29 AM
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Jesse00... if you are racing/heavy shifting on the stock clutch setup you will wear it out fast due to the restrictor. This mod will help remedy that and give you a better launch.

xstephenx... basically that is it, someone pushes the clutch in and you open up the bleeder for a split second... then you release the clutch and repeat. Keep in mind that you will have to be adding fluid to the reseviour while doing this as it will get drained.

Jesse00... think of it this way, if you use a fluid pressure to make something move it is best to have a straight/one sized line all the way so the fluid, which can't be compressed can actually force the clutch open at the same rate you push in the pedal. Same goes for releasing the pedal in that the clutch will engage at the same rate. If you put an oriface or restrictor in the line then when you push in on the pedal the reaction is slowed down so the clutch doesn't release as fast and the same goes for the engagement. We don't tend to notice the disengagement lag as when any pressure is applied and you disengage the clutch it will allow the motor to free rev. You do notice it on the engagement though. Mostly you feel the slight boggyness under hard conditions and you might even notice some spinning/high reving as if you feathering the clutch.

Now that i've written a book here i hope you see where this is effective... and for the price why not do it anyway.
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 03:26 PM
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Boe,

I'm trying to picture what your talking about for bleeding the clutch. Which reservoir is it? (man I'm dumb) also I can't figure out exactly what line will be replaced. are there any pictures. also. the line that gets repalced, does the air have to pass through the whole system or just close to the bleed valve? I want this mod, but just need to know if I can get it done myself without messing it up.

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