do anyone know if a turbo from eclipse would fit into a ralliart need a response
real soon guys !!!!

 

You'll need to build a TC manifold. Which gen? The 1g has a 14b while the 2g has a T25. I think either will be too small for your 2.4 liter. The T25 will run out of breathe in the upper rpm. The 14b is better than the T25, but it has its limitations too.

 

yes but an eclipse is not 2.4 ???? the 4g69 is is suppose to be a eclipse motor with a mivec so why the turbo would not have enough power ????

 

Just get the 16G from the evo. There are a few running around for real cheap. You need a custom manifold for this turbo to fit your rallliart engine.

 

A small 16g should do nicely. An Evo 16G will cost abount 200 bucks more making over 350 flywheel HP. Or a T28 . . . you'll be making HP close to the Slivia S15, just w/o the partial ball bearing.


The G69 is a 2.4 liter.

 

ok thanks guys but you all think it wont be pushing enough cause i can get it for 50 box us with all the piping but if it dosent fit im gonna look for your evo turbo !!!!

 

and what you guys mean by 1g 2g 15g is this psi ???

 

1st, 2nd generation, etc... and the 16G is the "name" of the Evo turbo.

An important thing to remember is how well your other stock stuff will accept the extra power of the turbo. The Evo engine isn't just a regular old 4 cyl. with a turbo slapped on...

 

There are 3 versions of the 16G: small, big, and Evo. The modern Evo is different since it has twin scroll tech stuff. Ask the Evo retailers.


http://linux.forcedperformance.net/m...Code=DSM-Turbo
Here's an isea of the turbo difference and their HP rating.

Yes, there is a 15G (up to 300 flywheel HP or so). It's a slight upgrade for the 3KGT VR4 over their twin 13G.

 

so what would be the best turbo to fit on a ralliart and if you guys can tell me if those headers would fit http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...sPageName=WDVW
and wich intercooler would be the best i would appreciate !!!

 

It depends on how much money you're willing to spend on a turbo. First of all Dont go off thinking you can throw down 20psi on that stock RA motor, i wouldn't run more than 6-8psi without the bottom end being built. So i'd go with a smaller more inexpensive turbo. Probably a rebuild of a 1st gen Eclipse.
Any front mount IC would work great, if you wanted your car to be more of a sleeper you can get a side mount IC out of a junk yard for around 70$ and have it pressure tested, your car would be a total sleeper and it still does its job. (I had a side mount IC off a 1st gen Eclipse on my civic, it worked great) If you do build the bottom end and want to run more than 10psi i would suggest getting a front mount IC but with less boost than that you wouldn't really notice a huge difference. imo

 

If I may....


1.) The 2.4 liter found in the Eclipse was never factory turbo'ed. That header you are looking at on eBay was for an aftermarket turbo. Apparently, the guy who bought it was going to turbo his Eclipse and never did. Will it fit your car? I don't know. You need to look at where the radiator hoses, downpipe, radiator fans, etc. are to see if you have room, or what all you would have to remove to make room.

2.) 1st Gen, 2nd Gen, 3rd Gen....AKA 1G, 2G, 3G. This denotes the generation of the Eclipse/Talon/Laser in question. 1G is for the 1990-1994 E/T/L's. 2G is for the 1995-1999 E/T's. 3G is for the 2000-present Eclipses. The first 2 generations came with turbos as an option. The 3G's are all factory naturally aspirated. 1G and 2G are also referred to as DSM's (Diamond Star Motors) because they all came off the same assembly line in Normal, Illinois. The joint project between Mitsubishi, Eagle, and Plymouth that made these cars was called Diamond Star Motors.

3.) There are many ways to name turbos. 14B, 16G, 18G, 20G, and things like this are all for Mitsu turbos. They are also called TD-04, TD-05, TD-06, etc. depending on the housings they are in. Anything like a T-25, T-28, T-60, T-66, T-70 are all Garrett turbos. There are also T-3's and T-4's, as well as T-3/T-4 Hybrid turbos (Mutts). Then you have the "Evo 16G". Be careful. What generation Evo did it come out of? Why is this important? Up through Evo 3, they faced one direction, so the intake was on the passenger side. Evo 4 and up 16G's faced the opposide way and the intake is on the driver's side. The old DSM'ers used to buy used Evo 3 16G turbos because they were more or less a straight bolt-up affair on the first generation DSM's. The Evo 3 16G was also larger than a "big" 16G. 16G's had 3 different diameter exhaust openings: "small" was 6cm, "large" was 7cm, and I think Evo 3's was 7.5.

4.) Anytime you put a turbo on a car - especially a car that was never equipped with one to begin with - you need to think about quite a few things. Will the stock internals support the power I am going to be making? Do I have sufficient fuel delivery? Can I buy or fabricate all of the piping to fit this onto my car (intake AND exhaust)? Where will I drill and tap for oil and water lines for the turbo?

It might seem like you can get this turbo for cheap, but think about all the fabrication you will need to do to get it to hook up. Intercoolers alone can be very expensive. I would try to get one off of an old Starion or Conquest, have it either chemically washed and plated so that it shines and stand out...or perhaps powdercoated black, if you don't want it to be noticed. They are front mount sized, and can be found for around $100-$150 on www.DSMTrader.com if you do a little searching. As far as turbos go...I would stay away from getting an Evo 8 turbo, or anything that is twin-scroll. Yeah, it sounds cool, but good luck finding a manifold for your car that will work right with a twin-scroll turbo.

The turbo might only be $50, but you will no doubt spend well over $500 in total just in parts, adding the proper intake piping, exhaust piping, fuel upgrades, oil/water lines, dyno tuning, etc. I'm not trying to discourage you, I am just letting you know what you are getting in to. If you don't have this type of money, then you might be better off spending that $50 on something else that will help get your car faster now. Know what I mean?

I hope this helps.

 

I don't think the swap will work. you could have a completely custom setup made for yourself. oh and from what the guys at RRM said....i think...the RA's stock internals should be able to handle a 12psi boost.

 

the evo turbo will not work due to the fact that its a reverse scroll You can find a 16g for reall cheap you just gotta look around but you will also need a adapter kit as well, but now that I think about it a "BIG" T-28 might be big enough cause it can produce about 350 to the wheels and On a non-turbo motor thats more than enough powerhttp://www.forcedperformance.com

 

Not true with all Evo turbos....and a 16G out of an Evo 3 would be perfect for that motor.