Aggressive Wheels on 2004-2006 Lancer
 

For those wondering, I'm not pissed off that you guys are asking, but I'm just making this thread so that you can ask the questions here, which others might want to know the answer to, now everyone can see the answer.

DISCLAIMER: THIS IS STRICTLY MY OPINION AND NOT FROM A PRO.

current Setup:

17x9 +20 Wheels
215/40/17 Tires
5mm spacer on rears
BC Racing Coilovers 10kg/8kg
-1 camber all around
Fenders rolled and PULLED
Rubbing? Yes at 85% steering lock.

First things first, a 8 wide wheel will definitely have some stretch on a 205 tire, so I hope you're ok with that. To fit a 17x8 +35 I'd say you would have to at roll the lip on the back fenders. Either roll, or trim that lip that runs under the fender well(you'll feel it the moment you reach your hand in).

Now from my experience, S-Techs are relatively low in the front, even lower than my coilovers. Its a 1.5inch drop iirc. I think you would barely be able to fit a +35 but it will most likely rub on the fender liner(plastics) when you turn your wheel.

Honestly to all the people who want to run some stance on their Lancer, I strongly recommend you think twice and take the proper route on doing it. What I mean is, don't just take the internets word, get the wheels you want, fit it with the tire of your choice, bring it to the shop and see if you need any adjustments done to the body and make it work.

aggressive tires > aggressive wheels

i had the 17x8 +35 on mine, K3lv is right, you have to roll the rear fender lip, i also used 215/40/17's. i did have 215/45/17's but it was just a little to thick and i was rubbing the plastic inner liner more then i liked so i whiched them out. i also had to use 3mm spacers in the rear. i did get a clank on some rough bumps but other then that it was fine. i was also lowered on tein s-tech.
-Flip

Thanks for the quick answer it's ...appreciate it!!!
And by the way yes I want the stretch because I like the look of it and it also give me a little space under the fenders. I know that my teins are an inconvenient but I'm working hard to put some coilovers on it!
Do you have some advice on great coilovers for this type of wheels set up?

I by no means have an aggressive wheel setup...
17x7 +43 Wheels
215/40-17 tres
Tein S-Tech lowering springs
Rubbing: at 90-95% steering lock, I get slight rubbing on the inner plastic fender up front.

K3lv, with the spacing I currently have, how "bad" do you think it would be if I threw some 3mm to 5mm spacers on the fronts and rears (net offset of +40 to +38)? Do you think I'd hit any of the metal fender (either front or rear)?

My goal is to get my wheels more "flush" to the outside Not extreme, just moreso than right now. I'm not opposed to getting out the heat gun and massageing the inner plastic fender a little, if needed.

I like my BC Racing over Tein coilovers. Get them with a higher spring rate than stock.

Well 3mm to the front and 5mm to the back won't hurt, but you have to know how minimal that is(whip out a ruler). I don't think you'll hit the metal fender on that setup. S techs are pretty stiff

Something I don't understand is that Flip had 17x8 +35 and just a slight rubbing in the front inner fender but also BlackRaven with his 17x7 +43 had a slight rubbing too. How can it be possible because as I see it, Flip's wheels are alot wider than BlackRaven so it should be rubbing a lot more...need a little help here haha!!!

That had me wondering as well because when I had 17x7 +42 wheels it never rubbed. I can only imagine there is some sort of sag on blackravens suspension that dropped it more? It shouldn't rub but I just took his word for it

When I had my 17x7 +42 I didn't rub either.

That's what I taught...+42 with this size of wheels is considered the best set up for our cars. That is not what I want though!!!

Sorry to be a little off topic but I had to mention it...Why do Rota grid or p45 wheels, which are so sick by the way, have incredibly low offset for the 9 inches and higher wheels but under that size there is nothing lower than 45?
Do you have suggestions of wheels with the similar look but with lower offsets (ex XXR 552)

I cannot explain directly but I imagine it has to do with market and demand. How many people want to run the medium? Its either they go hard(low offset) or go simple(higher offset). that is just a guess though.

I guess you're right...it sucks anyway hahaha!!!

18X7.5 doesnt rub +42

if i get the tien s tech's im wondering if im going to rub i have stock wheels

Not with stock wheels and tires. 205/55/16 will rub the plastic liner at lock but not stock tire size.

i called and asked this, its pretty much what K3lv said, supply and demand, guy said people normally dont ask for a lower offset with the 17inch wheels, so they just stayed with the 19's for the low low offsets
-FLip

Ok ... now we're fixed!

Thanks for the research really appriciated.

By the way, I called my part dealer about the wheels I want and he found some but in 17x8 +30...do you think it will look great with 205/40/17 and will I only have to roll my fenders?

^ you're likely to have a little bit of rubbing when your steering is turned 100%.
Look will be flush on stock fenders. Rolling the back lip will be necessary

Ok thanks it is quite not as bad as I expected! For the rubbing when turning at 100% lock, to you hing it is possible to reshape the plastic with a heat gun to avoid the rubbing? If it is not I'm gonna live with the slight rubbing !

I suppose it is possible to push in the plstic with a heat gun, the fender liner is pretty thin itself.

Another PM. I think jay you must have searched and it came up with some old posts. The evo wheels will fit but the tire will not. I would not suggest using a spacer(why would you? It'll push it out even further, and it's not like our small stock brakes are any issue in clearance, its the fender itself.) Try looking at a 205 or 215/40/17 tire and the Evo wheels should fit nicely

Ok appreciate the help. Im probably going with something else. 17 x 8 +35 . hopefully that works out without a spacer.

I think you misunderstood me. Or maybe you misnderstand what the need of a spacer is for?

To explain as simple as possible, you wouldnt want to use a spacer if you don't have to. Reason being is that some enthusiasts tend to say they cause the studs more stress. I also suggest against going any further than a +38 offset on a 17x8 wheel. From the pictures I've seen of a 04-06 body with Evo bbs wheels, it will be flush against the stock fender already. Going with a +35 will make it stick out by another 3mm, which doesn't as much, but could be the difference between rubbing and not.

You wouldn't have needed a spacer regardless of a +35 or a +38 wheel on our Lancer bodies.

Hope that somewhat helps you understand. Cheers

I know it is a little inappropriate for this thread but I need some informations before I make the final move {thumbup}!

http://www.wheeldude.com/gallery2/d/...ost_bronze.jpg
http://www.wheelsbymbmotoring.com/im...g_WeaponBR.jpg

I'm finally getting some Rota Boost or MB Weapons in bronze for my RA but i'm not sure which one I should take between (Those are for the Rotas 17x7.5 +45 and 17x8 +35 or even 17x8 +48) and (those are for the MBs 17x7 +43, 17x8 +42 extremely 17x8 28).

Rotas : What makes me hesitate is that for the first set I would probably need some 10mm spacers to get the look I want. For the second choice, the offset maybe to big to avoid rubbing issues and for the third set, the wheel will rub on the strut mounts so I would have to use 10mm spacers too. I'm hesitating because (as some people say) spacers are hard on wheel bearings and wheel studs too...

MBs: Both first and second choice should fit ok (confirmation her please :p) and the last one I Think i would have to roll and maybe pull fenders?

I need some help please! And let me know which wheels you prefer. Personnaly MBs have a little something that I like ut let me know!!!


Steph.

Rotas:
17x7.5 +45 = Ok(maybe a 5mm spacer if you want to have it pushed out more)
17x8 +35 = Rolling needed
17x8 +48 = Too close to the inside(strut) will require spacer

MB:
17x7 +43 AND 17x8 +42(roll fender) fit
17x8 +28 will need fender work, most likely a mild pull

I prefer the style of the Rota Boost, especially because their design looks more concave. But I dislike Rota's. The MB Weapons will have edge of the wheels pop out before it meets the middle, which I dislike. It's hard to describe what the weapons will look like with those offset. The best way to find out how it actually looks(stores never take pics of every offset and width), its best you try to find that sizing for sale through searching in google, and hope that the person selling it has pictures for you to see what it actually looks like.

That is a more than precise answer. Thanks k3lv I really appreciate it! The Mb 17x7 +43 would fit perfect without any modifications but I will have to make up my mind on the size I want. I'm pretty sure I will go with the Mb Weapons. Thanks again and I'll post some pictures in the next weeks!

Cheers Steph

I'm looking to pick up some tein coilovers and Rota's 17x8 35+ and would like to fit some 215's or something a bit meatier.

meatier as in profile wise or width wise? Don't think you can go any wider without hitting your stock fender, and profile wise I wouldn't suggest higher than a 40 series, you're getting coilovers because you want to go lower right? By having a meatier 45 series tire you'll run into a whole lot of rubbing issues

I want to get coilovers for adjustability and I would believe that I could clear a 225 tire. I am getting the car repainted so I can pull the fenders as well if need be. I want to be low but not tucking tire

So what exact size are you looking for?

225/45/17: Way oversized throwing off your speedometer. There will be LOTS of rubbing with this size. The rubbing would most likely rub the fender liner inside. And what coilovers will you run? Will the camber be adjustable?

225/40/17: Last time I checked this size only existed with Nitto Neogens, but I don't see it on their website anymore

Is there a reason you're wanting to run such a thick tire? I still suggest staying within 2% of the stock tire size

The coilovers are tein basics. What about a 215/40-17? I'm certain on the wheel size.

^ CJ I've always said that 215/40/17 is the magic tire size for us. Close to speedometer reading and good fitment option :)

what does an aggressive wheel set up do?

It makes panties drop or become non-exsistant, so say better handling can also be had.. :lol:

ahh haha.. the handling seems unimportant

Only will really happen when you run an "aggressive" tire, not wheel. I lol at people running wider wheels that run tires that will fit on the stock size wheel. FAIL:lol:

THIS!!

just buy my wheels, they looked hella nice on my RA when i had it. info is in my for sale thread. {thumbup}

No disrespect but this is obviously not the "aggressive tires" thread, I understand some people use their car to track, some people use their car to show off and be unique/look good as a daily street car. You're right it doesn't make it handle better, like I said it all depends what they are aiming for. Please just leave useless comments out of here, I just created this thread to share info/opinions based on experience.

ok guys i need some help a guy in colo. (which is where im at) is selling some ssr GT-7 wheels 17" x 8" 8 1/2" silver 5 x 114.3.

Two of the wheels are 17" x 8.0", 40mm offset; two of the wheels are 17" x 8.5", 40mm offset. The hub centerbores are 79.5mm.

so my question is what could i do? in other words like have the 8.5 upfront and 8.0 in back or vice versa their nice and he is selling them cheap i dont understand all the 40mm and 79.5mm things (havent studied:( )

what tires would be good also? they only weigh 17 3/4 lb
also i have the kyb shocks and tein s tech's
thanks.{thumbup}

bump please

sorry late reply I went on vacation. Your 8.5 definitely won't work, you'll need a lot of work to fit that, and I'd imagine you would also be sitting very close to the suspension with that. I'd pass on that setup unless you want your wheels further out and get body work done

i wouldnt mind a wide body ralliart i just dont know where to start for fenders lol i guess i will pass thank you {thumbup}

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I know this is a little off topic, trying to get another opinion about tire sizes before i go ahead and buy a set, 1st time getting a set of tires.

-Wheels : Motegi MR125 17x7.5 42 offset

-Tires : Nitto NT NeoGen ZR 215 x 40 - 17

I'm sure these wont rub at all on my 06 ra from what ive read, but some tires and wheels sometimes might have a slight difference. No body kits, just have S-Tech springs on.

Any suggestion will be helpful, thanks.

^ you'll be fine

THIS. i have 17x7.5 +40 with nitto neogen 215/40/17's and they clear in the front AND back...but only by a cooter hair in the back. you'll be golden {thumbup}

pics for the non-believers:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...laza/photo.jpg
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i personally inspected this today, i couldn't believe they fit, but they do, and good too...the rear was close though rob, i laughed when i stuck my pinky finger in between the wheel and the trailing arm, and it stopped at the first knuckle :lol:

they looked so good i thought he had spacers i didn't realize at first how deep the wheels were.

:)

looks good man i still want to come check out your ralliart, ive got 17x7s i belive with 215 45s and my god they jsut snug into the wheel well anyone wanting that big beefy stance these look good, i was thinking of putting spacers but they wont fit their that close to the fender

Thanks, ordered them 2 days ago so they should be on soon.

what happens to the front fender liners? after you roll the fronts can the fender liners still be in there? :confused:

Don't need to roll fronts. There's nothing to roll there. Only in the back. I still haven't had mine rolled yet.

I mean on the original post with 17x9s

also wondering if you can get the -1 camber without coilovers? thanks

^ you can get camber bolts from a place like RRM. I'm not an alignment guru so cannot answer that one.

The fender liner is still there after it was rolled. Rubs like a ***** inside at full lock but it's still there

hmm yeah i know you can adjust the rear camber from the factory. i will have to look into getting those bolts.

as for the fender liner, is it possible to remove it easily to service the engine? and with a pull wouldn't the top of the inner liner shorten because its being pulled wider causing it to rub more?

i wonder how far off evo liners are...

i also read on some of the evo forums that some people heat up the fender liners with a heat gun and mold them how they want them. the splash them with a water hose to get them to hold shape

^ I suppose you can do whatever with the fender liner, I never bothered with it since it never became a nuisance. You already know more than I do about the fender liner

I talked to a guy i know that owns a body shop and they have a industrial fender puller you drive the car onto. he says its for cars that were in accidents but he could pull it out real nice so im probly gonna do that in a couple months.

Looking to possibly put some 5mm spacers on the car just to push them out a bit and make it look a bit better. I don't have enough money for new wheels until I can get my R6 sold.

Whats the most agressive 16" wheel i could run? I'm on progress springs with 205/50/16 and would prefer not to roll the fenders
Also, how much work would it be to run a 16x8 +20?

Are you on stock setup right now? If you are rocking stock wheels, go take a ruler, add approx 3.2 inches to your stock wheel and see how much more you'll be sticking out. From there you can gauge if you need to roll fenders or maybe pull fenders if you're unlucky

Right now im on progress in just the front and im on work equip 16x7 +45.
BTW, are our rear hubs bigger than the front? I had an issue with a different set of wheels not wanting to fit on the back over the hub but the same rims would fit on the front.

different aftermarket companies for rims use different bore sizes so probably an issue with the rim your using i know my enkei are about 72.6 bore and they clear fine

but why would the same wheel fit on the front, but not the back?

Omg 72.6? Yeah they clear but that's dangerous. U need hubcentric rings for those or you'll have problems eventually. U need 72.6 to 67.1 hub rings. Real cheap on ebay they are plastic. The wheels need to rest on the hub not the studs. As for front and rear maybe the rears had hub rings on them. It would really help with pics and testing the front wheels on the rears and rears on the front.

yeah i was looking at the ebay hub rings but i figured they be cheap and ****ty, any good? and there not resting on my lugs the rims and the lugs are conical fit so it still centers the rim properly in the end.

I've ordered a set of 17x7 +38 wheels and I'm planning on lowering the car with a set of coilovers in the next couple months so I'm wondering if I should go for 215/40 instead of 215/45 so that I won't have any rub issues?

I was thinking about picking up a 17x8.25 wheel with a +35 offset. Anyone know what kind of spacer I might need to get it to clear the suspension? I already know rolling the fenders is going to be needed and even possibly a slight pull.

How low is the question. Slam then 215/40. Mild/passive then 215/45. I dont know why you guys want 215/45 anyways... 215/40 is perfect width

You wont need a spacer. I ran 17x8 +43 fine before, no suspension rubbing. If you want more stance then grab a 3mm/5mm. Smallest you can find.

XXR Im guessing? :)

Yep. Xxr 527s

215/40/17 tiire good?

My setup is 17x7.5 +40 with 215/40/17's. No rubbing issues and the tires actually look small to me. So I'm thinking about going to a 45 series tire and getting spacers (3mm) and rolling my fenders. Or I might stay with the 40's and get bigger spacers...Im also on tein s-techs.

To conclude, yes, 215/40/17 is a good size...if you're lowered. If not for with te 45's.

Lowered on coilovers at the moment

Then I'd say stick with the 40 series unless you wanna lift it back up a bit

Thanks for the quick reply kelv, much appreciated!

Just ordered a set of 215/40/17 tires.

Roblaza is right, if you're gonna lower it, go with the 40 series.

nice. i just placed the order today for my rims. cant wait to get the whole setup on the car and rollin

hey regardless which wheel u go youll have rubbing, i have 215 40 17 tires pretty low on coilovers. and they rub when i turn and if i hit a big enough bump you will hear them scrap may be better off going 205 thats what i would do next time

depends on how low he wants to go...

I don't plan on lowering too much, I want to take my car to the local mountains and whistler for boarding so I don't want a snowplow.

just about to go out and buy some spacers... do i need 2 or 4?

where is a good place to buy 5mm hubcentric spacers? I wouldn't mind some either, will 5mm spacers require longer wheel studs, or is it safe on stock studs?

I believe you're good on oem lugs. And I can get some from a good friend of mine, but it means going to orillia to have the rims measured and the hubs measured lol

Hey if the wheels are same specs as Flips then I believe he only needed to spacers for the rear and they were 3mm. If you want you can check Flip's thread just to make sure.

My wheels are 1/4in wider than his I believe

I dont think you'll need extended bolts for 5mm spacer. Anything more then probably yes though.

The option of 2 or 4 is entirely up to you... it'll just slightly give a staggered look if you only get a set of 2. But since we are FWD it wont matter/effect the drivetrain.

im still rubbing even w/ the 3mm.. =/

not sure if its on the inner or outer fender that is rubbing though

Rims and tires
 

I want to go with a new setup on my ralliart currently have 215/35R18 and want to drop down a size but go with a wider rim maybe 8'' will this fit and what kind of offset should i be going with? Any suggestions guys help me out with this one!!

Amsoil-Lancer

I'm runnin 17x7 with +40 and i only get a very light run at full turn and only in reverse. and only on the plastic lining in the front. back is 100% clean. I'm also running on stechs too.

be aware in the rear im running 17x7 and lowered quite a bit on bc's and i barley clear my trailing arm with the rim u may want to look into this first oh be prepared with offset of rim spacers and possible fender rolling/pulling, i could be wrong tho

What is the offset of your rim im running 215/35R18 and i believe the offset is +45 but not to sure because it doesn't say it anywhere but thats what the guy told me where i bought them i have no rubbing issue's in the front or rear. I wanna run 17x7.5 +42 or +40 offset and by reading the forums sounds like most guys are having no issues with these offset's. Did you have to do any rolling or pulling on your fender's. I'm ok with rolling the inner's but don't want to modify the outer fender's in any way. I'm not sure how low you are if you were to measure from the ground to the top of your fender just above your tire i'm sitting at 2 feet in the front and 2 and a quarter in the rear take a measurement of yours and let me know so we can compare.

Thanks.
Amsoil-Lancer

I just bought some BBS's. They're 16x8. I'm riding on stock height. Will there be any rubbing? And what tire size would be best for me? 40 or 45. I'm planning on lowering the car on TeinS and KYB struts after winter. Will I need spacers?

offset?

[quote=keithislegit;9671166]I just bought some BBS's. They're 16x8. I'm riding on stock height. Will there be any rubbing? And what tire size would be best for me? 40 or 45. I'm planning on lowering the car on TeinS and KYB struts after winter. Will I need spacers?[/quotfor tire side wall id say 55-60 since thats your stock height, 45 will be bad man especially on a 16inch rim, as for rubbing no u will be fine once its lowered u might get some rubbign at max turning radius but i have a 215 so that could be why i noticed it now that im on BC coils its a little worse but expected considering how wide the tires are and how low mine sits

I noticed I couldn't find any 215/45/16's. The tires rims are 16x8 +40 offset. Help me with a set up. I'm going to be lowered on some TeinS' and KYB struts soon so I want to get it right the first time.

17 x 8 +35 rim. What tire size would work? 205/40 r17 / 215/40 r17? its lowered on coilovers. Just don't want it to rub fenders