the Z-chip is basically a piggy back. stimulate the ecu. The ecuteck is rewrite the ECU.
Ecuteck is a better product, in my an many others opinion. The Ecuteck started in 2000.
The Z-chip can be even older, but i didnt even hear anything about them before 2008.

Also i never heard anyone who warranty got denyed because the Ecuteck reflash.
Also Ecuteck is works with big names . Not just local tuners. Like race teams , Ralliart UK. HKS etc.

Your choice. The ecuteck is not much more expensive then the Z-chip when you actually done. One guy here paid in this RA forum $700. when he was finished. The ecuteck is around in the first time $800. But in that $800, you pay $450 for license fee for Ecuteck, after that that license is your forever . So the next tune is around $200-$300.

I hope it helped.

 

Pretty much the Z chip tricks the MAP to give more power/torque, that's why a intake would be a issue, and that's why there's a limit to the torque, damn American prices, thats pretty cheap for the ecutek tune haha

 

I use ECUTeK on the Ralliarts we tune here... It works great!

 

This is true so does it matter what tunning tool you use? You can upgrade all you want but your max tq is always gonna be in the 260-270 range.

 

Where are you getting your numbers?

 

Correction 265 max tq by Scott @ TTP here is the full story
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/20...iart-4b11.html

 

I believe AMS or GST just recently tuned a ralliart beyond that power, and didn't have an issue with the SST.

Edit: It was AMS... They got a nice additional chunk of power without running into the "torque limit"
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/20...no-inside.html

 

265 is not the max for the SST trans, 265 max tq is the max if you use Z chip to tune your car, because its a piggyback style mod, that relies on tricking the ECU by altering the Map sensor, Z-chip doesnt reflash or do any of that kind of stuff to the ECU, how do you think the Evo X can obtain higher Tq values, and AMS also obtains higher TQ,

 

265 wtq can make for a very quick daily driver, I have about that and it can be a real handful at times. On the way home Saturday evening I accidentally broke traction with all four wheels on dry pavement simply because I hit what I presume was a patch of ice.

 

wrong...my car was tuned at 285 WTQ...then scott gave it a more mild tune to 265 due to the torque protection

 

So yeah if he put it down to 265 tq then yeah thats the max that Z chip can go without having tranny issues or without worrying abt damaging anything...same crap just saying it differently, if you want me to be more exact, the here it is.. 265 TORQUE IS THE MAX THAT Z CHIP SHOULD PUT OUT WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES OR DAMAGING THE TRANNY, OR TRANNY SLIPPING... if im wrong then put it back at 285 see what happens

 

how about you get all the AMS parts with a tune and flash above 270WTQ and see what happens/. you have to remember all the MR's have these tranny issues too.

 

I don't think AMS even hit the claimed 'torque limit of 265 wtq'

Although AMS does believe the torque limit is speculation, we can't really say whether it is or not until AMS themselves or others hit numbers over the claimed torque limit of 265wtq.

 

Well im not saying there couldnt be issues, but remember the gains that the Ralliart get wont be that close to the Evo X, so your not going to be running over 300tq to the wheels, I am getting the reflash , and then exhaust later on, and yeah until AMS gets their ralliarts to that we will see what the limits are

 

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