Key Fob Question
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Key Fob Question
On my current car, there is no button on the key fob to unlatch the trunk. This is pretty annoying at times.
On an RA with the FAST key option (standard in the US I believe?), this wouldn't really be an issue, since you don't have to use the key fob anyway. But if the RA does NOT have the FAST key option, is there a button on the key fob to unlatch the trunk?
On an RA with the FAST key option (standard in the US I believe?), this wouldn't really be an issue, since you don't have to use the key fob anyway. But if the RA does NOT have the FAST key option, is there a button on the key fob to unlatch the trunk?
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on my non-FAST Ralliart there is, in fact, a trunk button! There is no "fob", as it is all integrated into the key itself.
on the FAST system, it is like a credit card, with a spare manual key tucked inside it. Different hardware altogether, though I'm sure the program behind it is all the same.
on the FAST system, it is like a credit card, with a spare manual key tucked inside it. Different hardware altogether, though I'm sure the program behind it is all the same.
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on my non-FAST Ralliart there is, in fact, a trunk button! There is no "fob", as it is all integrated into the key itself.
on the FAST system, it is like a credit card, with a spare manual key tucked inside it. Different hardware altogether, though I'm sure the program behind it is all the same.
on the FAST system, it is like a credit card, with a spare manual key tucked inside it. Different hardware altogether, though I'm sure the program behind it is all the same.
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That was the answer I was looking for. I'm not so sure about what you said about the FAST system though - can anyone confirm? I thought you just carry the remote in your pocket. I'd imagine a credit card-like device would be more cumbersome. Also, that implies that you wouldn't be able to unlock doors from a distance, which is also inconvenient, and contradicts the first response. I always thought the card systems were no longer used - I know Mercedes used them a long time ago for its Keyless Go system.
However, if you prefer, you can use the fob to open and lock the doors, or to open the trunk. You can use the manual key to get into the car, but I don't think you'd get far in my Canadian model manually, since there's nowhere to start the car with a key.
One disturbing thing about FASTkey -- it lets me start the car only when the fob is nearby, and it senses/warns when the fob moves out of range, but it does not disable the car when the fob moves away. That makes it an incredible pain to leave the car warming up in a cold Canadian winter. Also, never try to take refuge in a parked Ralliart by locking yourself inside -- the doors won't lock when a fob is inside the car (at least not when it's parked -- you could start the car and then lock the doors, I suppose).
Maybe I can clear it up. Fast key has an unlock, lock, and trunk button. And a panic button. But you don't need ti use them. They are there because if you need to open the car from far away, you can. The fast key part works by just having the key near you when opening the doors or trunk . Hope this helps.
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With FASTkey you carry the fob (which is not at all flat like a credit card) in your pocket, and the door handles sense your hand in the pull. Ditto for the trunk release. The starter is a bump that you turn, where you'd normally find the end of your key in the ignition. You lock the doors by pushing a black button by each door handle
However, if you prefer, you can use the fob to open and lock the doors, or to open the trunk. You can use the manual key to get into the car, but I don't think you'd get far in my Canadian model manually, since there's nowhere to start the car with a key.
One disturbing thing about FASTkey -- it lets me start the car only when the fob is nearby, and it senses/warns when the fob moves out of range, but it does not disable the car when the fob moves away. That makes it an incredible pain to leave the car warming up in a cold Canadian winter. Also, never try to take refuge in a parked Ralliart by locking yourself inside -- the doors won't lock when a fob is inside the car (at least not when it's parked -- you could start the car and then lock the doors, I suppose).
However, if you prefer, you can use the fob to open and lock the doors, or to open the trunk. You can use the manual key to get into the car, but I don't think you'd get far in my Canadian model manually, since there's nowhere to start the car with a key.
One disturbing thing about FASTkey -- it lets me start the car only when the fob is nearby, and it senses/warns when the fob moves out of range, but it does not disable the car when the fob moves away. That makes it an incredible pain to leave the car warming up in a cold Canadian winter. Also, never try to take refuge in a parked Ralliart by locking yourself inside -- the doors won't lock when a fob is inside the car (at least not when it's parked -- you could start the car and then lock the doors, I suppose).
With FASTkey you carry the fob (which is not at all flat like a credit card) in your pocket, and the door handles sense your hand in the pull. Ditto for the trunk release. The starter is a bump that you turn, where you'd normally find the end of your key in the ignition. You lock the doors by pushing a black button by each door handle
However, if you prefer, you can use the fob to open and lock the doors, or to open the trunk. You can use the manual key to get into the car, but I don't think you'd get far in my Canadian model manually, since there's nowhere to start the car with a key.
One disturbing thing about FASTkey -- it lets me start the car only when the fob is nearby, and it senses/warns when the fob moves out of range, but it does not disable the car when the fob moves away. That makes it an incredible pain to leave the car warming up in a cold Canadian winter. Also, never try to take refuge in a parked Ralliart by locking yourself inside -- the doors won't lock when a fob is inside the car (at least not when it's parked -- you could start the car and then lock the doors, I suppose).
However, if you prefer, you can use the fob to open and lock the doors, or to open the trunk. You can use the manual key to get into the car, but I don't think you'd get far in my Canadian model manually, since there's nowhere to start the car with a key.
One disturbing thing about FASTkey -- it lets me start the car only when the fob is nearby, and it senses/warns when the fob moves out of range, but it does not disable the car when the fob moves away. That makes it an incredible pain to leave the car warming up in a cold Canadian winter. Also, never try to take refuge in a parked Ralliart by locking yourself inside -- the doors won't lock when a fob is inside the car (at least not when it's parked -- you could start the car and then lock the doors, I suppose).
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On the flip side, that only makes me more confused about why the immobilizer doesn't kick in when the key fob is out of range. It's bloody annoying to not be able to leave the car running without worrying about someone driving off, when it would be so trivial for Mitsubishi to fix that.
Cool -- in an emergency.
On the flip side, that only makes me more confused about why the immobilizer doesn't kick in when the key fob is out of range. It's bloody annoying to not be able to leave the car running without worrying about someone driving off, when it would be so trivial for Mitsubishi to fix that.
On the flip side, that only makes me more confused about why the immobilizer doesn't kick in when the key fob is out of range. It's bloody annoying to not be able to leave the car running without worrying about someone driving off, when it would be so trivial for Mitsubishi to fix that.
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The immobilizer doesn't kick on when you take the FAST fob out of the car, BUT the steering wheel is locked AND the shifter is locked. You can rev and brake - but you can't take the car out of park or move the steering wheel. At least this is how the US FAST is set up, not sure about CA...
[in case you were wondering, I tested this by starting the car, taking the keys into my house, and then pulling out of the driveway and back in -- according to my dealer, they use this feature for test drives, so they don't have to give the potential customer any keys -- come to think of it, maybe it's just that my dealer screwed up my car]
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